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David Wright wrote: It takes 5 hours to travel from London to Edinburgh by train, at a cost of around £80 ($160). Whereas, book early enough, and you can fly from London Luton (about 30 miles out of London) to Edinburgh with low cost carrier easyJet.com for around £20 ($40) in just under 50 minutes. There is a Top Gear episode in which they buy cars and drive them from London to some nearby town for less than the train ticket would have costed them... I was shocked. -- Eduardo K. | http://www.carfun.cl | "World domination, now" http://e.nn.cl | Linus Torvalds |
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Yes, but fuel isn't most of that. And if it weren't for taxes fuel there would cost what fuel here does. OTOH they have effective passenger rail transport, we don't. Less of the here and there, I'm in the UK! No, we don't have effective passenger rail transport ![]() It takes 5 hours to travel from London to Edinburgh by train, at a cost of around £80 ($160). Whereas, book early enough, and you can fly from London Luton (about 30 miles out of London) to Edinburgh with low cost carrier easyJet.com for around £20 ($40) in just under 50 minutes. The train is scheduled at 4.5 hours, and Easyjet at 1.25 hours. I found Easyjet fares for tomorrow at £140, and if you book early enough on the train, you can find fares as low as £12.50. The choice of mode really depends on where you are, and where you are going. If you are in central London, you can arrive at KX only 15 minutes before departure, and be on your way. If you need to go to Luten or Stansted to catch Easyjet, you need to start out at least 2 hours ahead, to get to the airport in time to catch the flight. Transportation to and from the airport adds to the cost, of course. Plus it takes 45 minutes to get into Edinburgh when you arrive at the other end. Any way you look at it, the trip is still pretty long. Now, if you lived near Luton, Stansted, or Gatwick, it would be a whole different calculation, or if you were destined to a place part-way to Edinburgh, like York or Newcastle. |
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![]() Bret Ludwig wrote: Jay Honeck wrote: Tony Snow, "technical advisor" for our aviation video webpage (Tony is retired RAF, and has forgotten more about aviation than I'll ever know), confirmed for me today that it would cost $640+ for me to top off Atlas -- our Cherokee Pathfinder -- in Great Britain. Imagine! $640 to go fly! This *might* explain why there are only 9 registered Cherokee 235s in all of Britain, no? Pretty sad. But consider also the thousands of Americans that don't own an airplane ostensibly because they are "saving for their children's college education". I don't know about the UK specifically but in most of Europe, if your kids really are smart enough for college, they can go, and if they aren't they won't be anyway. So let's look at the whole picture. And don't forget all the Americans who cannot afford to fly because of medical bills. |
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![]() Andrew Sarangan wrote: Bret Ludwig wrote: And don't forget all the Americans who cannot afford to fly because of medical bills. But, just like Europe, no one in the United States is denied required medical treatment (Medicaid). -Robert |
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
Andrew Sarangan wrote: Bret Ludwig wrote: And don't forget all the Americans who cannot afford to fly because of medical bills. But, just like Europe, no one in the United States is denied required medical treatment (Medicaid). -Robert Show me who qualifies for medicaid and can afford to fly at the same time. |
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Show me who qualifies for medicaid and can afford to fly at the same
time. Um, isn't that as it should be? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Show me who qualifies for medicaid and can afford to fly at the same
time. If you can afford to fly, you are paying for your health care whether you live in the U.S. or in Europe. In Europe you give the gov't money to pay for your healthcare, in the U.S. you give the insurance company money to pay for your healthcare. In both cases, if you don't have money, the gov't picks up the tab. -Robert |
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![]() Bret Ludwig wrote: Pretty sad. But consider also the thousands of Americans that don't own an airplane ostensibly because they are "saving for their children's college education". I don't know about the UK specifically but in most of Europe, if your kids really are smart enough for college, they can go, and if they aren't they won't be anyway. So let's look at the whole picture. We have the same system in California (CSU system). We actually have another system as well for the not-so-smart kids (the Community College System). -Robert |
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I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra
Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon graduation with a B average, a guaranteed slot in either the CSU or UC system for their upper division and graduate work. Jim "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... We have the same system in California (CSU system). We actually have another system as well for the not-so-smart kids (the Community College System). -Robert |
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![]() RST Engineering wrote: I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon graduation with a B average, a guaranteed slot in either the CSU or UC system for their upper division and graduate work. True. But that aside, the fact is if you are not able to get accepted to a university, the community college system will take you. -Robert |
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