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Old August 19th 06, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Eduardo K.[_1_]
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Default $640.00 to fill the tanks...

In article ,
David Wright wrote:

It takes 5 hours to travel from London to Edinburgh by train, at a cost of
around £80 ($160). Whereas, book early enough, and you can fly from London
Luton (about 30 miles out of London) to Edinburgh with low cost carrier
easyJet.com for around £20 ($40) in just under 50 minutes.


There is a Top Gear episode in which they buy cars and drive them
from London to some nearby town for less than the train ticket would have
costed them... I was shocked.


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Old August 19th 06, 01:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
James Robinson
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"David Wright" wrote:

Yes, but fuel isn't most of that. And if it weren't for taxes fuel
there would cost what fuel here does. OTOH they have effective
passenger rail transport, we don't.


Less of the here and there, I'm in the UK!

No, we don't have effective passenger rail transport

It takes 5 hours to travel from London to Edinburgh by train, at a
cost of around £80 ($160). Whereas, book early enough, and you can fly
from London Luton (about 30 miles out of London) to Edinburgh with low
cost carrier easyJet.com for around £20 ($40) in just under 50
minutes.


The train is scheduled at 4.5 hours, and Easyjet at 1.25 hours. I found
Easyjet fares for tomorrow at £140, and if you book early enough on the
train, you can find fares as low as £12.50.

The choice of mode really depends on where you are, and where you are
going. If you are in central London, you can arrive at KX only 15
minutes before departure, and be on your way. If you need to go to Luten
or Stansted to catch Easyjet, you need to start out at least 2 hours
ahead, to get to the airport in time to catch the flight. Transportation
to and from the airport adds to the cost, of course. Plus it takes 45
minutes to get into Edinburgh when you arrive at the other end.

Any way you look at it, the trip is still pretty long.

Now, if you lived near Luton, Stansted, or Gatwick, it would be a whole
different calculation, or if you were destined to a place part-way to
Edinburgh, like York or Newcastle.
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Old August 16th 06, 08:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan[_1_]
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:
Tony Snow, "technical advisor" for our aviation video webpage (Tony is
retired RAF, and has forgotten more about aviation than I'll ever
know), confirmed for me today that it would cost $640+ for me to top
off Atlas -- our Cherokee Pathfinder -- in Great Britain.

Imagine! $640 to go fly! This *might* explain why there are only 9
registered Cherokee 235s in all of Britain, no?




Pretty sad. But consider also the thousands of Americans that don't own
an airplane ostensibly because they are "saving for their children's
college education". I don't know about the UK specifically but in most
of Europe, if your kids really are smart enough for college, they can
go, and if they aren't they won't be anyway. So let's look at the whole
picture.


And don't forget all the Americans who cannot afford to fly because of
medical bills.

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Old August 16th 06, 08:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
And don't forget all the Americans who cannot afford to fly because of

medical bills.


But, just like Europe, no one in the United States is denied required
medical treatment (Medicaid).

-Robert

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Old August 16th 06, 09:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan[_1_]
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
Andrew Sarangan wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
And don't forget all the Americans who cannot afford to fly because of

medical bills.


But, just like Europe, no one in the United States is denied required
medical treatment (Medicaid).

-Robert



Show me who qualifies for medicaid and can afford to fly at the same
time.

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Old August 16th 06, 09:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Show me who qualifies for medicaid and can afford to fly at the same
time.


Um, isn't that as it should be?
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Old August 17th 06, 12:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Show me who qualifies for medicaid and can afford to fly at the same
time.


If you can afford to fly, you are paying for your health care whether
you live in the U.S. or in Europe. In Europe you give the gov't money
to pay for your healthcare, in the U.S. you give the insurance company
money to pay for your healthcare.
In both cases, if you don't have money, the gov't picks up the tab.
-Robert

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Old August 16th 06, 08:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Bret Ludwig wrote:

Pretty sad. But consider also the thousands of Americans that don't own
an airplane ostensibly because they are "saving for their children's
college education". I don't know about the UK specifically but in most
of Europe, if your kids really are smart enough for college, they can
go, and if they aren't they won't be anyway. So let's look at the whole
picture.


We have the same system in California (CSU system). We actually have
another system as well for the not-so-smart kids (the Community College
System).

-Robert

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Old August 16th 06, 09:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra
Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS
to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon
graduation with a B average, a guaranteed slot in either the CSU or UC
system for their upper division and graduate work.

Jim





"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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We have the same system in California (CSU system). We actually have
another system as well for the not-so-smart kids (the Community College
System).

-Robert



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Old August 17th 06, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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RST Engineering wrote:
I beg to differ. I am a product of CSU-San Diego and teach at Sierra
Community College in Rocklin and Grass Valley. The smart ones go to the CCS
to get their lower division classes at $24 a semester unit and, upon
graduation with a B average, a guaranteed slot in either the CSU or UC
system for their upper division and graduate work.


True. But that aside, the fact is if you are not able to get accepted
to a university, the community college system will take you.

-Robert

 




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