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I bust my ass. Well, my back anyway. Literally. I've had many jobs and lost
many jobs. Not due to my "work ethic" but to my insistence that I, and
coworkers, be treated with dignity and respect. I am not in the military any
more and I don't expect to be treated like a recruit because some lazy
asswipe is on a power trip. If you think that's unreasonable, then maybe you
need to think long and hard about your work ethic.

All of the things I complained about with my other employers that got me
fired or made me quit, and would have gotten me fired or made me quit this
job were it not for the union, are finally being recognized as legitimate
beefs-not just the whinings of a lazy, worthless, ungrateful leech of an
employee. It has taken 20 years for our union to get through to our
employer, but they can't deny the problems any longer and are finally doing
something, reluctantly, about them.

Think I'm getting any recognition for my efforts? I'm not. Think I care? Not
really-as long as conditions improve.

mike

"Emily" wrote in message
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mike regish wrote:
Without my union, I wouldn't have been there 1 year

You know, that's my problem with unions. They keep people employed who
shouldn't be employed. Now, I don't know you, don't know how you work,
but there's something wrong with that mentality. If it takes someone else
to keep you employed, you need to think long and hard about your work
ethic.

Very well said..........................................



Emily wrote:
mike regish wrote:
Without my union, I wouldn't have been there 1 year

You know, that's my problem with unions. They keep people employed who
shouldn't be employed. Now, I don't know you, don't know how you work,
but there's something wrong with that mentality. If it takes someone
else to keep you employed, you need to think long and hard about your
work ethic.

Jay Honeck wrote:
They *are* openly slandering their *employer*
Are you able to provide some examples of the "slander" you mention?

Well, let's start by assigning cutesy, disrespectiful names to the
company CEO on a blog site.

Is that slander? No, I suppose legally it is not. It IS
insubordination,

Insubordination is refusing to obey orders. No one ever said you can't
make fun of your CEO. Ours has really bad hair, and we all know it and
have made comments. It doesn't mean we deserve to be fired.

"Emily" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:
They *are* openly slandering their *employer*
Are you able to provide some examples of the "slander" you mention?

Well, let's start by assigning cutesy, disrespectiful names to the
company CEO on a blog site.

Is that slander? No, I suppose legally it is not. It IS
insubordination,

Insubordination is refusing to obey orders. No one ever said you can't
make fun of your CEO. Ours has really bad hair, and we all know it and
have made comments. It doesn't mean we deserve to be fired.

If there is a corporate policy against such comments you could be
terminated. It also falls under harassment which is certainly a hot button
of recent years.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
...

Insubordination is refusing to obey orders. No one ever said you can't
make fun of your CEO. Ours has really bad hair, and we all know it and
have made comments. It doesn't mean we deserve to be fired.

If there is a corporate policy against such comments you could be
terminated. It also falls under harassment which is certainly a hot
button of recent years.

Harassment may be against company policy (at least for the lower echelons)
but it certainly isn't illegal/a-legal-issue (which is the topic...isn't
it?)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Yes, what an indignity: a government agency forced to respect employees'
right to criticize the government. That certainly shows how evil unions
are.

They're not criticizing the "government" -- that is every Amercan's
right. They *are* openly slandering their *employer*

Their employer *is* the government. (And there's nothing resembling slander
here.)

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Yes, what an indignity: a government agency forced to respect employees'
right to criticize the government. That certainly shows how evil unions
are.

They're not criticizing the "government" -- that is every Amercan's
right. They *are* openly slandering their *employer*

Their employer *is* the government. (And there's nothing resembling
slander here.)

--Gary



I think slander is the wrong word. But how about insubordination?