The SSA-OLC

Eric Greenwell wrote:
You aren't getting that from Doug's posts: he has consistently said
there isn't a hard number for various reason, as have other posters. The
claim that the SSA is going to ask a pilot to remove a flight because it
is a few seconds, or even minutes, over is wrong.

Eric, and everyone else on this thread, let me apologize for the harsh
tone of my last post.It has been cheerfully stricken from the record.
The situation as I see it is this; Someone posted the minutes from a
SSA board meeting elswhere on R.A.S. where they decided to remove any
posts to OLC that could make the SSA look bad.Now, all Monica jokes
aside, the SSA had
to define "bad".Judging from some of the posts here, and the private
emails I have recieved over this thread, the issue is one of
interpritation and to a lesser degree, jurisdiction.I dont bring this
up to argue FAR issues, I brought it up because I dont want my OLC
postings to be scrutinized down to the Nth detail.IMHO this is what
would take the fun out of it.
I went on the OLC site for the first time a few days ago, and I was
fasinated by it.I looked up flights out of some of the places I have
flown at over the years and came across some old buddies flights and it
was pretty cool.My point is that I never thought to question the
legality of any of these flights.If I am at a full on contest, I would
say bring on the scrutiny, I do my best to comply with the FARs and I
have nothing to hide.But, if I am posting for a casual contest like the
OLC, where it is just for fun and education, I would say who needs this
level of scrutiny?Apparently someone does, because it keeps coming up.(
Please dont anybody post an answer to this, it is strictly retorical.)

You are making this far more difficult than it is. You really need to
skip this thread, do some flying, post your flights on the OLC, and sit
back and enjoy looking at the flights the other pilots are doing and are
happily posing every day.

You got that straight Eric! I am sorry I ever started this thread.I
want to thank you Wayne, Tom and everyone else (Pro and con) for your
insights.


You've gotten plenty of insight from real world participants who have
posted for years will no calls to remove their flights, but you appear
to ignore it in favor of a few pilots unhappy with posting limitations
on flights that show "substantial" variations from the FARS. Since you
plan to fly well within the FARs, you should know by now that YOU will
have no problems. So, why do you continue to worry about this?

Her again Eric, thanks for your opinions.I didnt mean to keep this
thread alive like this, it just sorta happened.I will probably try a
post or two on the OLC next season.

Paul never called your post "useless". At least, I couldn't find it,
even with a Google Groups search, but if you'll point out the post, I'll
be happy to read it. And, he did not suggest Yuily shouldn't post here,
only that he didn't want to read his posts.

What Paul did was call this thread useless.Since I started this thread,
I figured he was refering to me.I dont know the guy personally and I
didnt take issue with any of his ideas or opinoins, I took issue when
he sugested what was "useful" to post.

I hope he hasn't considered it when it comes to posting here, as I think
we'd lose some very useful comments. I'm appalled that you consider
Paul's stand one issue is a suitable reason to buy somewhere else, and
attempt to silence him with an economic threat.

Here again, Eric my comments were harsh, and made in a moment of haste
and they have been withdrawn.


If Paul's only interest in the sport was to suck as much money off the
participants, he'd just be posting happy talk about all the great stuff
he has to sell you. Paul is committed to this sport because he thinks
it's a great one, and he works hard at making it better. He does this in
a variety of ways, from very helpful comparison tables on his website,
to running glider software classes at the conventions, and now the
Contest Manager for the 2007 18M/Open Nationals.

For the record, I also thinks Paul's website is a valuble
asset.Although I am not a customer of his (yet), I have refered several
people to his bisiness over the years.
KM