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NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...



 
 
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Old October 2nd 06, 11:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Emily wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:

Steven, I'm curious to know what your thought processes were in that
dire
situation.

"If I die out here, I'll never hear the end of it from the gang at
rec.aviation."



Funny as that may be, Steven *was* very cognizant of how he wrote this
story up, for fear of being flamed by certain members of this group.



The fact is, you're always going to get flamed, no matter what you do.
You can't worry about it.


I agree. What's to worry about? Flames aren't fatal. They don't even
hurt. :-)

Matt
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Old October 2nd 06, 04:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jon Kraus
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

but they do look funny running with their wrists flapping an all... :-)

Matt Whiting wrote:
Emily wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:

Steven, I'm curious to know what your thought processes were in
that dire
situation.


"If I die out here, I'll never hear the end of it from the gang at
rec.aviation."



Funny as that may be, Steven *was* very cognizant of how he wrote this
story up, for fear of being flamed by certain members of this group.




The fact is, you're always going to get flamed, no matter what you do.
You can't worry about it.



I agree. What's to worry about? Flames aren't fatal. They don't even
hurt. :-)

Matt

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Old October 2nd 06, 06:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

The fact is, you're always going to get flamed, no matter what you do.
You can't worry about it.


I agree. What's to worry about? Flames aren't fatal. They don't even
hurt. :-)


Well, as you know I am immune to flames, too -- but I often hear from
"lurkers" who say they don't post for fear of getting lambasted.

Not everyone is a thick-skinned as we are, and -- if we want GA to grow
-- we need to be welcoming everyone into this group with open arms, not
poison pens.
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Iowa City, IA
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Old October 3rd 06, 12:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

On 2006-10-02, Jay Honeck wrote:
Funny as that may be, Steven *was* very cognizant of how he wrote this
story up, for fear of being flamed by certain members of this group.


Ever since Steven Ames got flamed to a charbroiled crisp over a loose
formation flight (with a CFI as the wing man), I've always had to resist
the temptation to post about the flight of four we did consisting of a
Cessna 140, Cessna 170, Grumman Tiger and Beech Bonanza. So far I've
resisted because I think I'd be trolling if I did that :-)

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Old October 6th 06, 07:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave S
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Dylan Smith wrote:
On 2006-10-02, Jay Honeck wrote:

Funny as that may be, Steven *was* very cognizant of how he wrote this
story up, for fear of being flamed by certain members of this group.



Ever since Steven Ames got flamed to a charbroiled crisp over a loose
formation flight (with a CFI as the wing man), I've always had to resist
the temptation to post about the flight of four we did consisting of a
Cessna 140, Cessna 170, Grumman Tiger and Beech Bonanza. So far I've
resisted because I think I'd be trolling if I did that :-)


Go ahead and post. I can vouch for the credentials of at least 2 of the
wingmen.. I'm tryin to figure out who #4 was...

Dave
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Old October 6th 06, 10:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

On 2006-10-06, Dave S wrote:
Dylan Smith wrote:
Ever since Steven Ames got flamed to a charbroiled crisp over a loose
formation flight (with a CFI as the wing man), I've always had to resist
the temptation to post about the flight of four we did consisting of a
Cessna 140, Cessna 170, Grumman Tiger and Beech Bonanza. So far I've
resisted because I think I'd be trolling if I did that :-)


Go ahead and post. I can vouch for the credentials of at least 2 of the
wingmen.. I'm tryin to figure out who #4 was...


I was actually #4 in the Bonanza. We put the slowest plane first :-)
Keiran Smart was in the Tiger. I'm not sure who was in the 170 though!

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Old October 2nd 06, 02:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...


"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Steven, I'm curious to know what your thought processes were in that dire
situation.



"If I die out here, I'll never hear the end of it from the gang at
rec.aviation."


Truly any pilots version of hell.


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Old October 2nd 06, 06:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
again, jay, thanks for being the conduit on this. great stuff.


It's been quite an adventure for Steven. His experiences could fill a
book already, and he's only 30!

Steven, I'm curious to know what your thought processes were in that
dire situation. Stuck in IMC over the North Atlantic, in the dark, no
primary displays, a possible carbon-monoxide leak, a known fuel leak --
I simply can't imagine it getting any worse.

You did a great job keeping everything right-side up, and your head on
straight.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Well, my thoughts were not to panic and keep as calm as i can and think!!
How I kept calm was saying to myself yes it can get much worse!


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Old October 3rd 06, 12:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave S
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

NW_Pilot wrote:


Well, my thoughts were not to panic and keep as calm as i can and think!!
How I kept calm was saying to myself yes it can get much worse!



Welcome home.. glad it worked out safely...

and without sounding high and mighty.. I'm guessing you will pay greater
attention to the fuel system and its architecture in the future...
particularly when aux tanks and injection return lines are involved.

Also.. do everyone else a favor and file a NASA form.. not because of
alleged rule breaking, but because you have discovered a true safety of
flight issue that needs to be addressed.. the sooner the better.. Garmin
needs to have a fault exclusion algorhythm that removes nonsensical
readings from it's decision tree.. rather than causing a software crash..

Dave
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Old October 1st 06, 05:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

On 1 Oct 2006 08:33:39 -0700, "houstondan"
wrote in . com:

someone said "a more experienced pilot would have......", well, i think
he did just great.


There's no question Mr. Rhine did the right thing in his case.
 




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