Need proof of trainin in Air Force Base in VA in 1969

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Dave Thompson" wrote in message
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Yahbut, that was when they were still part of the Army.

But commonly referred to as the Air Force.

Air Corps, during WWII.

"Off we go...
....nothing can stop the Army Air Corps."

--
St. John
It's so beautifully arranged on the plate -- you know someone's fingers
have been all over it.
-Julia Child on nouvelle cuisine.

"Daryl Hunt" wrote:

"Ogden Johnson III" wrote:

"Daryl Hunt" wrote:

421X2 Pneudraulics Repairman

ROTFLMAOWTIME!!!!!

Only the Air Farce could come up with "Pneudraulics."

Hey, did you serve in the Air Farce? Only those that did deserve to use
that term. Otherwise, you can just use (*&)(&*D

Sort of. Two six-month deployments of our USMC Harrier Det to
operate out of Kadena AB.

And, of course, like our compatriots in the Army and Navy, we
suffered cruel and unusual treatment every time we had fly on one
of your [MATS/MATC/MAC/pick a name] C-141/C-5/C-130. One time
y'all left us stranded coming back from Denmark - standing beside
the runway with our thumbs out trying to hitch a ride on any
passing USAF cargo plane carrying all the REFORGER troops back.
I don't know whether our rear party OIC bribed or blackmailed
him, but finally after 10 hours one C-5 driver finally took pity
on us, and at least offered to take us to Dover with him where we
could arrange a ride with a real air transport company back to
Cherry Point.

[In the event, all that fancy navigation s[tuff] in the C-5's
front office paid off, and halfway across the Atlantic the PIC
told us that they were making great time, and could drop us off
at NKT without running out of either fuel or crew-hours before
getting back to Dover. So we didn't have to go to Plan B -
commercial air.]

Whether you like it or not, *anyone* who has served as a US
Marine, Soldier, or Sailor and has experienced the tender mercies
of the USAF has earned the right to use the term Air Farce.

[When we aren't using A+*@$+#@(*$@+ ;-]

--
Ogden Johnson
(ne OJ III)
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and dot the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:37:29 -0400, Ogden Johnson III
wrote:

Sort of. Two six-month deployments of our USMC Harrier Det to
operate out of Kadena AB.

And, of course, like our compatriots in the Army and Navy, we
suffered cruel and unusual treatment every time we had fly on one
of your [MATS/MATC/MAC/pick a name] C-141/C-5/C-130. One time
y'all left us stranded coming back from Denmark - standing beside
the runway with our thumbs out trying to hitch a ride on any
passing USAF cargo plane carrying all the REFORGER troops back.
I don't know whether our rear party OIC bribed or blackmailed
him, but finally after 10 hours one C-5 driver finally took pity
on us, and at least offered to take us to Dover with him where we
could arrange a ride with a real air transport company back to
Cherry Point.

[In the event, all that fancy navigation s[tuff] in the C-5's
front office paid off, and halfway across the Atlantic the PIC
told us that they were making great time, and could drop us off
at NKT without running out of either fuel or crew-hours before
getting back to Dover. So we didn't have to go to Plan B -
commercial air.]

Whether you like it or not, *anyone* who has served as a US
Marine, Soldier, or Sailor and has experienced the tender mercies
of the USAF has earned the right to use the term Air Farce.

Please, OJ, you are confusing the airlifters with the USAF. They
aren't on "our" side either! The trash-haulers are generally more bad
than good (although I'm the first to admit I encountered an occasional
exception, such as the C-124 guys who gave me a lift out of Tachikawa
in a tale related in When Thunder Rolled.)

For some reason the MAC (or whatever they are called now) folks have
mastered the principle of being always able to leave in the middle of
the dead of night, fly any length of trip and arrive also in the
middle of the night, anywhere in the world. Simply show up six hours
before departure to get your fair share of abuse.

And don't even get me started on being rousted out of bed in the
middle of the night in some MAC BOQ because the quarters were reserved
for "aircrew"--meaing MAC pukes, not necessarily combat aviators.



Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:37:29 -0400, Ogden Johnson III
wrote:

Sort of. Two six-month deployments of our USMC Harrier Det to
operate out of Kadena AB.

And, of course, like our compatriots in the Army and Navy, we
suffered cruel and unusual treatment every time we had fly on one
of your [MATS/MATC/MAC/pick a name] C-141/C-5/C-130. One time
y'all left us stranded coming back from Denmark - standing beside
the runway with our thumbs out trying to hitch a ride on any
passing USAF cargo plane carrying all the REFORGER troops back.
I don't know whether our rear party OIC bribed or blackmailed
him, but finally after 10 hours one C-5 driver finally took pity
on us, and at least offered to take us to Dover with him where we
could arrange a ride with a real air transport company back to
Cherry Point.

[In the event, all that fancy navigation s[tuff] in the C-5's
front office paid off, and halfway across the Atlantic the PIC
told us that they were making great time, and could drop us off
at NKT without running out of either fuel or crew-hours before
getting back to Dover. So we didn't have to go to Plan B -
commercial air.]

Whether you like it or not, *anyone* who has served as a US
Marine, Soldier, or Sailor and has experienced the tender mercies
of the USAF has earned the right to use the term Air Farce.

Please, OJ, you are confusing the airlifters with the USAF. They
aren't on "our" side either! The trash-haulers are generally more bad
than good (although I'm the first to admit I encountered an occasional
exception, such as the C-124 guys who gave me a lift out of Tachikawa
in a tale related in When Thunder Rolled.)

For some reason the MAC (or whatever they are called now) folks have
mastered the principle of being always able to leave in the middle of
the dead of night, fly any length of trip and arrive also in the
middle of the night, anywhere in the world. Simply show up six hours
before departure to get your fair share of abuse.

And don't even get me started on being rousted out of bed in the
middle of the night in some MAC BOQ because the quarters were reserved
for "aircrew"--meaing MAC pukes, not necessarily combat aviators.

Ah,. but Ed, I went around the world about 3 times that way. I knew how the
system worked and got to do things and see things that I never imagined I
would. Of course, I saw the world through the back door but that beats the
hell out of not seeing it at all.

"Ogden Johnson III" wrote in message
...
"Daryl Hunt" wrote:

"Ogden Johnson III" wrote:

"Daryl Hunt" wrote:

421X2 Pneudraulics Repairman

ROTFLMAOWTIME!!!!!

Only the Air Farce could come up with "Pneudraulics."

Hey, did you serve in the Air Farce? Only those that did deserve to use
that term. Otherwise, you can just use (*&)(&*D

Sort of. Two six-month deployments of our USMC Harrier Det to
operate out of Kadena AB.

I never was around the Harriers. I take it it takes a real man to get one
of those puppys from point a to b. Or someone as crazy as a gyrene.


And, of course, like our compatriots in the Army and Navy, we
suffered cruel and unusual treatment every time we had fly on one
of your [MATS/MATC/MAC/pick a name] C-141/C-5/C-130.

After being on the 130s, I thought the 141 was a Caddilac. They even put in
Airline style seats for us on the 141s and the heaters actually worked. Not
like the 130s where you slept on pallets and had to stay above 5 feet in the
back to stay warm. Would I trade all the miles on the Herky Pigs? Not in
this lifetime or any other.



One time
y'all left us stranded coming back from Denmark - standing beside
the runway with our thumbs out trying to hitch a ride on any
passing USAF cargo plane carrying all the REFORGER troops back.
I don't know whether our rear party OIC bribed or blackmailed
him, but finally after 10 hours one C-5 driver finally took pity
on us, and at least offered to take us to Dover with him where we
could arrange a ride with a real air transport company back to
Cherry Point.

Welcome to the United Air Force Airlines.



[In the event, all that fancy navigation s[tuff] in the C-5's
front office paid off, and halfway across the Atlantic the PIC
told us that they were making great time, and could drop us off
at NKT without running out of either fuel or crew-hours before
getting back to Dover. So we didn't have to go to Plan B -
commercial air.]

Commercial Air? My, how they pampered you. If that had happened to one of
us, we might go from a layover to a TDY (g)



Whether you like it or not, *anyone* who has served as a US
Marine, Soldier, or Sailor and has experienced the tender mercies
of the USAF has earned the right to use the term Air Farce.

[When we aren't using A+*@$+#@(*$@+ ;-]

Now you know why we all dress up like Bus Drivers. So we can avoid the
lynching by ducking into the nearest bus station.