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Old October 13th 06, 04:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob Noel writes:

Is CNN a source information or not?


It's not. It's a for-profit corporation. Its objective is to sell
advertising, which it does by broadcasting things that people want to
see. Any information that transpires during the course of this
activity is incidental.

Why would you want NORAD to NOT use a source of information?


When the source is demonstrably unreliable.

Remember, not too long ago, CNN claimed that a giant meteor was
hurtling towards our planet.

Was the aircraft on a flight plan? If not, would you expect NORAD
to know the aircraft's intentions?


Is NORAD supposed to know the intentions of every plane in the sky?

What is the downside of scrambling?


A hundred million dollars or so.

It's not like they gave any order to shoot.


It's not like they can fly for free.

Do you expect NORAD to have this magic sensor array where
they know the whereabouts of every single airborne target?


I expect them to keep cool heads and exercise good judgement. Making
decisions based on CNN's Breaking News is not in line with those
objectives.

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Old October 13th 06, 04:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily writes:

Does this frighten anyone else?


Yes. Not only does it mean lots of hysterical false alarms thanks to
CNN, but it also means that the bad guys can do what they want, as
long as they can avoid being on TV.

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Old October 13th 06, 04:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Denny writes:

The spokesman for
NORAD admitted he got his only information from CNN and made his/their
decision to scramble based upon those news reports...


I sincerely hope that is not true.

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Old October 12th 06, 11:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Owen wrote:
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So if you were calling the shots, how long would you have waited to call
for air support?


If I was calling the shots, I wouldn't call for air support. I don't
believe in shooting down an unarmed civilian airliner simply because it
MIGHT be used as a weapon.
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Old October 13th 06, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Last March I was flying the VFR corridor over Denver, in a "flight of
two". No requirement to talk to ATC, we were below Class B. As we
approached downtown we were overflown DIRECTLY ABOVE by a military jet
out of Buckley. I am pretty sure he "shot us down" (dry fire). Well, it
was a training exercise, I mean, what else do they have to do?

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Old October 13th 06, 04:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily writes:

If I was calling the shots, I wouldn't call for air support. I don't
believe in shooting down an unarmed civilian airliner simply because it
MIGHT be used as a weapon.


But that's because you're a pilot. Most people consider aircraft to
be dangerous and potential terrorist weapons except on the rare
occasions when they are riding in an aircraft themselves. GA aircraft
are always suspect because normal people never ride in GA aircraft.

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Old October 13th 06, 10:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Owen wrote:
snip

So if you were calling the shots, how long would you have waited to call
for air support?


If I was calling the shots, I wouldn't call for air support. I don't
believe in shooting down an unarmed civilian airliner simply because it
MIGHT be used as a weapon.


Just because the fighters are there doesn't mean they are going to shoot
someone down.


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Old October 14th 06, 02:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Owen wrote:
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So if you were calling the shots, how long would you have waited to call
for air support?

If I was calling the shots, I wouldn't call for air support. I don't
believe in shooting down an unarmed civilian airliner simply because it
MIGHT be used as a weapon.


Just because the fighters are there doesn't mean they are going to shoot
someone down.


What else are they going to do? They've already admitted they
considered shooting down the governor of KY.
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Old October 16th 06, 04:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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When the only tool you have is a hammer, the world looks like a nail...

denny

Emily wrote:
What else are they going to do? They've already admitted they
considered shooting down the governor of KY.


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Old October 16th 06, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Owen wrote:
snip
So if you were calling the shots, how long would you have waited to
call
for air support?
If I was calling the shots, I wouldn't call for air support. I don't
believe in shooting down an unarmed civilian airliner simply because it
MIGHT be used as a weapon.


Just because the fighters are there doesn't mean they are going to shoot
someone down.

What else are they going to do? They've already admitted they considered
shooting down the governor of KY.



There is a difference between carrying a gun, pulling one out of the holster
and shooing someone.


 




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