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Old October 16th 06, 04:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Neil Gould
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Recently, Peter Duniho posted:

"Neil Gould" wrote in message

Note that YOU were the one that set the parameters that the
"aircraft's engines are running", therefore, the regs quoted
directly answered your original question, as the PIC is always
"operating an aircraft" if the engines are running, and therefore it
is not "just a polite custom".


The PIC is NOT "always 'operating an aircraft' if the engines are
running". The FAA specifically defines "operate" to relate to "air
navigation". There is nothing in the definition that suggests that
simply having the engine running constitutes "operating".

Remember those two airline pilots that got busted for being drunk when
they boarded the plane in Florida recently? Were they not charged with
operating an aircraft under the influence? The engines were not yet
running, as I recall. So, apparently, it takes a lot less to "operate" the
aircraft than "air navigation" in reality. Nonetheless, I'll re-read the
regs to see your point of view on this.

Neil


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Old October 14th 06, 03:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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Emily wrote in
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Can't he just read the regulations? He's obviously got access to
internet.


Maybe we all should answer his questions just like you did Emily.

Just point him to FAR / AIMS.

You were nicer then me, as I was only going to put a link and let him
click through it. I.E tell him the answer can be found at:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...ecfrbrowse/Tit
le14/14tab_02.tpl

Allen
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Old October 14th 06, 03:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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Trying again.... Stupid newsreader puts a line break in long URLs.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?
&c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title14/14tab_02.tpl
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Old October 14th 06, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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A Lieberma wrote in
. 18:

Trying again.... Stupid newsreader puts a line break in long URLs.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?
&c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title14/14tab_02.tpl


Anybody know of a better newsgroup reader (freeware) then what I am using?
Xnews just drives me nuts sometimes esepcially with word wrapping.

Allen
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Old October 14th 06, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Emily
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A Lieberma wrote:
A Lieberma wrote in
. 18:

Trying again.... Stupid newsreader puts a line break in long URLs.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?
&c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title14/14tab_02.tpl


Anybody know of a better newsgroup reader (freeware) then what I am using?
Xnews just drives me nuts sometimes esepcially with word wrapping.

Allen


I just use Thunderbird. I was going point out your second post was
still wrong, but it looks like you figured it out. :-)
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Old October 14th 06, 07:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Peter Duniho
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"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...
Anybody know of a better newsgroup reader (freeware) then what I am using?


40tude, Free Agent, Thunderbird, Outlook Express, to name a few.

I use OE and it works fine. Filtering via anything more complicated than
just ignoring an entire thread or blocking a particular poster is a pain,
but at least OE doesn't break URLs when you post them, even if they are
longer than the normal line length limit you've set. It's a standard
component that comes with IE, so it's almost certainly already installed on
any Windows computer you might be using.

Others will swear up and down OE is a piece of junk. Those people are
blinded by their own prejudice. But that said, there are plenty of
non-Microsoft choices available if you'd rather not use OE, for whatever
reason.

Pete


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Old October 14th 06, 08:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"A Lieberma" wrote

Anybody know of a better newsgroup reader (freeware) then what I am using?
Xnews just drives me nuts sometimes esepcially with word wrapping.


Most will do that.

Try putting a at the beginning (no space and at the end (no space) and see if
that helps. As in this:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?&c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title14/14tab_02.tpl
--
Jim in NC

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Old October 15th 06, 06:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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A Lieberma wrote:
Anybody know of a better newsgroup reader (freeware) then what I am
using? Xnews just drives me nuts sometimes esepcially with word
wrapping.


I use xnews and there are a couple tricks to getting the wrapping you
like. The following assumes the version you are using is the same
version as mine and user settings are similar (most of mine are "factory
default"). Suppose you are composing a post and insert an outrageously
long line like this:

Thisisanoutrageouslylonglinethatjustgoesonandonand onandonandonandonandonandonandonandonandonandIthin kthatisenough.

Obviously as you type such a line it will normally wrap at 72 characters.

At the lower right of the main text window you should see two icons, one
with a blue checkmark on a folder icon and another that is a red arrow
pointing down and then to the left. If you click on the red arrow icon
you toggle word wrap. After typing in a paragraph, try clicking it a few
times. You should see auto-inserted newlines come and go.

Now above the main text window should be several menu options:
[Ext. Edit] [Rewrap] [Undo] [Save] [Send Now!]

With word wrap on, click on [Rewrap] to force permanent insertion of
newlines. Now click on the red arrow on the lower right to turn word
wrap off. Now go back to the long line(s) that got wrapped and manually
delete the newline (move the cursor to the beginning of the last chopped
line and hit backspace). With word wrap off, post the message.

I sure hope that helps.
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Old October 15th 06, 12:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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Jim Logajan wrote in
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Now above the main text window should be several menu options: [Ext.
Edit] [Rewrap] [Undo] [Save] [Send Now!]


Thanks Jim,

I think I had tried that and on the second message, the URL got
truncated in a different position.

Instead of using the backspace, I was deleting the last charactor of the
line, and re-inserted the deleted charactor.

No biggie, not normal that I post such long URL's anyway, just hate
nuicance things since I am suppose to be smarter then the computer. :-)

Allen
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Old October 18th 06, 12:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"A Lieberma" wrote

Thanks Jim, ((a different jim than Jim in NC))

I think I had tried that and on the second message, the URL got
truncated in a different position.

Instead of using the backspace, I was deleting the last charactor of the
line, and re-inserted the deleted charactor.

No biggie, not normal that I post such long URL's anyway, just hate
nuicance things since I am suppose to be smarter then the computer. :-)


Did you try the before and after the link trick?
--
Jim in NC

 




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