How often do you have to go around?

writes:

Just do what you'd do in real life - slow down. When you find yourself
closely following traffic to the runway, you can create more time
between you and the guy in front by slowing down. Of course, this may
cause trouble for the guy behind you, but that's his problem. You can
also fly S-turns to create additional spacing.

In the sim, the problem is usually that the plane in front of me
lingers on the runway after landing. Then the controller tells me to
go around. I'm not given the option of refusing (although sometimes I
just ignore the controller and continue).

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Just do what you'd do in real life - slow down. When you find
yourself closely following traffic to the runway, you can create
more time between you and the guy in front by slowing down. Of
course, this may cause trouble for the guy behind you, but that's
his problem. You can also fly S-turns to create additional spacing.

In the sim, the problem is usually that the plane in front of me
lingers on the runway after landing. Then the controller tells me to
go around. I'm not given the option of refusing (although sometimes I
just ignore the controller and continue).

Talking about --how did you put it -- "...local pilots doing foolish
things...", this should be pretty close to the top of your list. And, it
will get you into an interesting but short discussion with the FAA, should
you survive that decision.

Neil

Might want to try slowing down when you're 2nd in line. Leave more space
between you. Make the next guy go around.

mike

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Well, it would be nice if there were a dial to change this. You can
reduce the amount of activity with other aircraft in MSFS, but you
can't control exactly how that activity is conducted.

mike regish writes:

Might want to try slowing down when you're 2nd in line. Leave more space
between you. Make the next guy go around.

I tried it, but he was in a Cessna (152, or whatever comes with MSFS),
and I was in a Baron, and I was uneasy about trying to slow too much
when so close to the ground and so close to landing myself. I ended
up passing beneath him as he slowed. Although it's possible to ignore
collisions in MSFS, I went around and spent another five or ten
minutes flying a pattern of sorts and coming in again (I need practice
flying patterns, anyway, I guess).

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Mxsmanic wrote:
mike regish writes:

Might want to try slowing down when you're 2nd in line. Leave more space
between you. Make the next guy go around.

I tried it, but he was in a Cessna (152, or whatever comes with MSFS),
and I was in a Baron, and I was uneasy about trying to slow too much
when so close to the ground and so close to landing myself.

You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:22:45 -0400, Ron Natalie
wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:
In simulation, the simulated ATC seems to be very inefficient at
spacing aircraft, because practically every fifth aircraft on landing
is told to go around. In fact, if you are told to follow someone in
for a landing, you can take for granted that he won't clear the runway
in time and you'll be told to go around. It's tiresome and
frustrating after spending a lot of effort to line things up nicely.

It's rare. I can't recall ever being told to go around at Dulles and
I can recall only once having a Gulfstream sent around because I was
on the runway. It's more common at airports with a lot of instructional

That's about my average as well for a bit over 1300 hours.

Once, many years ago an small turboprop had to go around at Lansing
as I hadn't cleared the runway. A couple years ago at MBS I was
told to "keep it in close" and then the guy ahead of me landed on the
numbers with a mile taxi to the first turnoff. I did a go around, was
still cleared, landed long, made the turn off and a DC-9 was able to
land behind me. Had I landed on the numbers the DC-9 would have had to
have gone around.

activity. People don't clear the runway or mess up the spacing, or
don't take off promptly when cleared, etc...


I suspect the flight games throw in a few more unexpected incidents,
malfunctions, etc... to make the games more interesting.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger (K8RI) wrote:


It's rare. I can't recall ever being told to go around at Dulles and
I can recall only once having a Gulfstream sent around because I was
on the runway. It's more common at airports with a lot of instructional

That's about my average as well for a bit over 1300 hours.

Once, many years ago an small turboprop had to go around at Lansing
as I hadn't cleared the runway.

In our case, we were cleared into position and hold and not given
our take-off clearance when they sent the Gulfsteam around. We
offered to get off (would not have been a problem, they weren't
that close in).

In a previous article, Mxsmanic said:
How often does this happen in real life? I should think and hope that

About twice in 15 years, both times at an uncontrolled field.


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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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In simulation, the simulated ATC seems to be very inefficient at
spacing aircraft, because practically every fifth aircraft on landing
is told to go around. In fact, if you are told to follow someone in
for a landing, you can take for granted that he won't clear the runway
in time and you'll be told to go around. It's tiresome and
frustrating after spending a lot of effort to line things up nicely.

How often does this happen in real life? I should think and hope that
real controllers can space aircraft better so that it's rarely
necessary to abort a landing.


Quite frequently at the small non controlled field I fly out of in
Australia. The reason being we share it with a glider operation, Although
the gliders operate from the grass beside the bitumen strip it is close
enough that we have to consider it as the same runway. And of course for
obvious reasons powered aircraft have to give way to gliders.
terry

d&tm writes:

And of course for obvious reasons powered aircraft have to give
way to gliders.

I guess one can't really ask a glider to go around.

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