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I find that the weather is not a factor 80% of the time. The airline or
driving option is there for those times. I have to fly commercial ocassionally to properly appreciate GA. ![]() Roger (K8RI) wrote: But the weather is much more of a factor than it is flying commercial. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Judah writes: But what if the weather is bad or there is low visibility? I walk IFR. How do you maintain separation from other ground-craft? GCT? Just because it doesn't present value for you doesn't mean it has no value. Evidence would suggest that GA presents value to some number of people in the world, because there are many people, both pilots and otherwise, that use General Aviation as a form of transportation. If there is no value in it, they wouldn't use it. I think it more likely that many private pilots use the pretext of transportation as an excuse to fly. Not that there's any harm in that, but they should just admit it and not try to pretend that aircraft are actually practical transportation for general purposes. Why do you think that? Why would people fly if it did not provide some benefit? |
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Judah writes:
How do you maintain separation from other ground-craft? GCT? I'm ugly, which serves as my TCAS. Why do you think that? Because all the evidence points to it. Why would people fly if it did not provide some benefit? Because they enjoy flying. Why do people ride horses? It certainly isn't for transportation. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Why do people ride horses? It certainly isn't for transportation. As usual, WRONG AGAIN. Amish community use horses for PRIMARY transportation. Of course you wouldn't know that in your sim world. Allen |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Judah writes: How do you maintain separation from other ground-craft? GCT? I'm ugly, which serves as my TCAS. Visual conditions are required for ugliness separation. Why do you think that? Because all the evidence points to it. Only if you have selective evidence tracking. Why would people fly if it did not provide some benefit? Because they enjoy flying. Most people enjoy having sex. And yet there are many reasons that people have sex. Why do people ride horses? It certainly isn't for transportation. Some people actually DO ride horses for transportation. Someone else mentioned the Amish, who do it for religious reasons. Mounted Police patrol numerous cities around the world including New York, London, Toronto, Washington DC, and Detroit because it is more efficient for their purpose. There are certain parts of the world where riding a horse or pack animal is the only possible way to navigate the terrain. However, there are other ways in which I find your example very appropriate. In New York, the Mounted Police and Horse & Buggy drivers put blinders on the sides of the horses' heads. The blinders allow the horses to see only in the direction that their head is pointed at any given time. This helps prevent them from being scared of the busy world around them so that they can pretend that it does not exist. |
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![]() Mxsmanic wrote: Judah writes: But what if the weather is bad or there is low visibility? I walk IFR. Just because it doesn't present value for you doesn't mean it has no value. Evidence would suggest that GA presents value to some number of people in the world, because there are many people, both pilots and otherwise, that use General Aviation as a form of transportation. If there is no value in it, they wouldn't use it. I think it more likely that many private pilots use the pretext of transportation as an excuse to fly. Not that there's any harm in that, but they should just admit it and not try to pretend that aircraft are actually practical transportation for general purposes. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. Self deception is an integral part of the GA game. They have an organization, the AOPA, that puts out complete propaganda about the utility of GA for travel, as well as how simple it is to fly. Look at the GA Serving America Website. It is replete with nonsense about the utility of VFR GA for transportation. It really is quite humourous. Rather than focusing on improving pilots' skills (though they devote much of their efforts to this), the AOPA strays into political matters such as whether taxpayers should keep providing subsidies to recreational pilots. It also successfully lobbies the FAA (which it has huge influence over) to create new categories of licenses, the weakest of which (Sport Pilot) requires NO MEDICAL WHATSOEVER. It constantly tries to get medical rules loosened, so that some geezer on his last gasp still has the legal right to fly 1000 feet over private properties. In short, it is a very nefarious special interest lobby that has contempt for all but its pilot members, who it refers to as the "elite". Reading a few entries on the NTSB GA crash website puts the notion of private pilots being elite to rest. As you know, there are quite a few boobs flying around. Some of the pilots themselves admit to this. |
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It also successfully lobbies the FAA (which it
has huge influence over) to create new categories of licenses, the weakest of which (Sport Pilot) requires NO MEDICAL WHATSOEVER. It constantly tries to get medical rules loosened, so that some geezer on his last gasp still has the legal right to fly 1000 feet over private properties. Do you realize that it takes NO MEDICAL WHATSOEVER for that same geezer to drive a fully laden SUV down the highway at 55 mph, only ten or fifteen feet away from ONRUSHING traffic? Medicals for all drivers! Damn the AAA! Jose -- "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter). for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Skylune writes:
Self deception is an integral part of the GA game. They have an organization, the AOPA, that puts out complete propaganda about the utility of GA for travel, as well as how simple it is to fly. Look at the GA Serving America Website. It is replete with nonsense about the utility of VFR GA for transportation. It really is quite humourous. If GA were practical for transportation, it would be a lot more widespread. If it were as practical as cars, it would be as common as cars. The fact that is actually extremely rare implies that GA is only useful to people who like to fly for the sake of flying, in most cases. Rather than focusing on improving pilots' skills (though they devote much of their efforts to this), the AOPA strays into political matters such as whether taxpayers should keep providing subsidies to recreational pilots. How do taxpayers subsidize recreational pilots? It also successfully lobbies the FAA (which it has huge influence over) to create new categories of licenses, the weakest of which (Sport Pilot) requires NO MEDICAL WHATSOEVER. A driver's license doesn't require much of a medical, either. Why is that a problem? It constantly tries to get medical rules loosened, so that some geezer on his last gasp still has the legal right to fly 1000 feet over private properties. He already has the right to drive past them or even through them in a car. Why should flying be different? Besides, a skilled old geezer is a lot safer than a careless or incompetent young athlete. In short, it is a very nefarious special interest lobby that has contempt for all but its pilot members, who it refers to as the "elite". Reading a few entries on the NTSB GA crash website puts the notion of private pilots being elite to rest. As you know, there are quite a few boobs flying around. Some of the pilots themselves admit to this. Yes. GA is its own worst enemy. What puzzles me is how so many manifestly incompetent and stupid people can still get private pilot's licenses. There are way more idiots flying than I would expect, given the difficulty of obtaining a license. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Skylune,
the weakest of which (Sport Pilot) requires NO MEDICAL WHATSOEVER. You mean, just like DRIVING? The horrors... -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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