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Old October 23rd 06, 10:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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Maybe I'm reading way too much into it, but I'm wondering what message
he's
trying to send.

As an A&P


"As an A&P"? Who is an A&P? You? Or the guy who made the Halloween
display?

is he saying flying isn't safe due to poor maintenance?


No.

Is he trying to say to passengers "you have no control, you should feel
vulnerable when you fly?"


No.

Is he trying to raise public awareness of some safety issue?


No.

Since I can't figure it out, I'll stand on the side of "sick" for the
reason
that he takes a form of public transportation that most people trust the
representatives of that company with their lives and then says "this is
what
can happen to you if you fly".


It *can* happen to you if you fly. But even if it couldn't, so what? I see
lots of stuff during Halloween that isn't possible.

I understand Halloween displays that say "this is what can happen if you
drink and drive" or "this is your brain on drugs",


You do? I have never seen a Halloween display made with that intent.
Perhaps you could point me to a few so we can understand what you mean.

but I don't see this one as a public service announcement.


I've never seen a Halloween display intended as a PSA.

As far as "cool", I think it would be cool if he had an airplane "parked"
in
his yard. "Pilot lands safely in residence front yard, no reported
injuries." Yeah, you loose the gore factor, but you raise allot less
questions about your motive.


Uh...well, an airplane safely parked in the front yard wouldn't have
anything to do with Halloween. The "gore factor" is the whole point.

You DO understand what Halloween celebrates, don't you? Your post implies
that you don't.

Pete


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Old October 24th 06, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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-----------much snipping-------------

You DO understand what Halloween celebrates, don't you? Your post implies
that you don't.

Pete


Actually, that's a very good point; because I am not at all sure what
Halloween now celebrates.

OTOH, I do know what it did celebrate. As a refresher, at the time of the
conversion from paganism Christianity in Europe, Halloween (All Hallows
'een) was a costume festival held on the evening before All Saints Day.
People dressed up to represent the old pagan deities, who were then fed
(given food) to appease then for the comming year.

Therefore, most of the costumes of mythical characters are not too far
afield.

But the guy with the plane crash scene is just plain wrong; and I have
nothing kind to say about PSA displays at Halloween either.

Peter


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Old October 24th 06, 03:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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-----------much snipping-------------

You DO understand what Halloween celebrates, don't you? Your post
implies
that you don't.

Pete


Actually, that's a very good point; because I am not at all sure what
Halloween now celebrates.


Halloween today is a reason to have a party that has an overall Horror
theme. Just like St. Patrick's Day is a day to have a party with a green or
Irish theme and Super Sunday is a day to have a party with a football theme.


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Old October 27th 06, 07:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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Halloween today is a reason to have a party that has an overall Horror
theme. Just like St. Patrick's Day is a day to have a party with a green

or
Irish theme


Damn, I thought it was just an excuse to be able to serve green beer...


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Old October 23rd 06, 10:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/gall...1806_halloween

I can't decide...


Firstly, you need to get with the times. These days, "cool" and "sick" are
synonyms.

Seriously though, I think the display fits right in with the spirit of
Halloween, and see it as no more "sick" than any other Halloween display.
It definitely qualifies for "cool" with respect to the effort and care put
into creating it. The question of "sick" is in the eye of the beholder. If
you don't care for Halloween generally, then I suppose you wouldn't care for
the display either.

But that's more about one's opinion of Halloween than it is about that
specific display. In the context of Halloween, I see nothing wrong with the
display.

Pete


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Old October 24th 06, 12:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It would be even neater if they could kid-proof it so kids could go through
it.

But, IMO, it's pretty cool.

mike

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/gall...1806_halloween

I can't decide...


Firstly, you need to get with the times. These days, "cool" and "sick"
are synonyms.

Seriously though, I think the display fits right in with the spirit of
Halloween, and see it as no more "sick" than any other Halloween display.
It definitely qualifies for "cool" with respect to the effort and care put
into creating it. The question of "sick" is in the eye of the beholder.
If you don't care for Halloween generally, then I suppose you wouldn't
care for the display either.

But that's more about one's opinion of Halloween than it is about that
specific display. In the context of Halloween, I see nothing wrong with
the display.

Pete



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Old October 24th 06, 02:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 23 Oct 2006 13:14:09 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/gall...1806_halloween

I can't decide...


I have enough old airplane parts to make a pretty realistic crash scene. Been
tempted to pull an April Fools joke by splaying them out in the back yard and
waiting until a traffic chopper happens by. Then I figure there's probably SOME
obscure law against it....

Ron Wanttaja
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Old October 24th 06, 05:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Cool or sick?

Neither. Just not very good, nor really fitting for the theme of
Halloween. Halloween is about ghosts, ghouls, witches on brooms,
spiders, and weird icky creatures. It's not really steeped in reality,
but in a visceral sense of what we dread.

His example is steeped in reality (in the sense that we really do fly on
airplanes, but don't fly on brooms). This removes it from the ghostly
sense of Halloween - it's like breaking the fourth wall in the theater.

Consider the difference between setting up a ghoulish multple
axe-murderer scene, and setting up an ordinary crime scene where a
murder took place. Although both are =possible= in real life, the
latter one, being more commonplace, is more "steeped in reality" (and
thus less viscerally fearful), and the former one, although things like
that have happened, is so far "out there" that it reaches for the
visceral sense of horror.

Now, if he had a few witches on brooms crashed into trees, being pursued
by a ghost in a C-172, which also crashed into a tree, that would work.

Jose
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Old October 24th 06, 07:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
Cool or sick?


Neither. Just not very good, nor really fitting for the theme of
Halloween. Halloween is about ghosts, ghouls, witches on brooms,
spiders, and weird icky creatures. It's not really steeped in reality,
but in a visceral sense of what we dread.


How about just in poor taste? I don't like to see stuff like this
because it makes light of a horrible situation, that unfortunately
happens all too often. Jim may have read into the display's intent a
little too far, just like Peter D's deconstructing the meaning of
Halloween in his rebuttal. I'm just not comfortable with what I see as
sensationalizing something as terrible as a jet crash. Some things
shouldn't be taken lightly IMO.

Now, if he had a few witches on brooms crashed into trees, being pursued
by a ghost in a C-172, which also crashed into a tree, that would work.


Or, an effigy of a certain Chicago mayor on a broom being chased by
armed Skyhawks... aviation-themed humor at its best

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Old October 24th 06, 07:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Kingfish" wrote in message
ups.com...
[...] I'm just not comfortable with what I see as
sensationalizing something as terrible as a jet crash. Some things
shouldn't be taken lightly IMO.


Some people take very seriously the possibility of being doomed to an
eternity of walking the planet as an undead construct, sent neither to hell
nor heaven. These people are not comfortable with Halloween celebrations
that sensationalize or take lightly that possibility.

Perhaps we should eliminate Halloween altogether, to ensure that we avoid
offending anyone who is uncomfortable with terrible things being portrayed,
lightly or otherwise.

Pete


 




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