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![]() Bob Moore writes: When the Smithsonian had there's in it's own temporary hangar [...] RON!! I don't believe it! "their's".....:-) Oy, the curse of erroneous corrections. It should have said "theirs". - FChE |
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If you are in Kansas at Hutchinson KHUT, the Kansas
Cosmosphere and Space Center is worth a visit. They have an SR-71 in the lobby and you can touch it and even walk under it. They also have a huge collection or real space artifacts. http://www.cosmo.org/ "Bob Moore" wrote in message . 121... | Ron Natalie wrote | When the Smithsonian had there's in it's own temporary hangar it | looked small. | | RON!! I don't believe it! "their's".....:-) | | Bob Moore |
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![]() Jim Macklin wrote: If you are in Kansas at Hutchinson KHUT, the Kansas Cosmosphere and Space Center is worth a visit. They have an SR-71 in the lobby and you can touch it and even walk under it. Ditto the Intrepid Air & Space Museum in Manhattan. The Blackbird is spotted right on the flight deck. There's also one at the Pima Air Museum in AZ. Great acft collection there. |
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![]() Looking at the data as presented and assuming 500 mph for the average speed in non-supersonic flight, I get: 4 hours(approx) @ 500 mph = 2000 miles. Leaving 10,200 miles for the 6:41 of supersonic flight, which is a "supersonic" average of just over 1,500 mph. The overall average speed for the 12k miles was 1125 mph or thereabouts. KB "Jim Macklin" wrote in message news ![]() If you do some simple algebra, the SR-71 is much faster than the published data. As the story below shows, only about 60% of the flight time is spent at supersonic speed. Yet the speed for the flights are in the 2,000 mph range even counting the subsonic time into the average. I would expect that the maximum speed was 4,000-6,000 mph. "Big John" wrote in message ... | Been lurking and not posting but think this will be of interest to | all. | | Wheee. Look at the numbers ![]() | | Big John | ************************************************** ******** | | | FLYING THE SR-71 AT A "LEISURELY CRUISE" OF M3.0+ AT FL800 | | An SR-71 flight in the 1973 Yom Kippur War | by Col. Jim Wilson, USAF (ret.) | | On Oct 6th 1973, the armies of Egypt and Syria opened an offensive | against Israel on two fronts, launching a coordinated series of air, | armored and artillery attacks across the Suez Canal into the Sinai and | on the Golan Heights. The preemptive strike came as a result of a | failure to resolve territorial disputes arising from the Arab-Israeli | War of 1967. | These disputes involved the return of the Sinai to Egypt and the | return of the Golan Heights to Syria. UN Resolution 242 and Egyptian | President Sadat's peace initiative failed to bring peace. Sadat | wanted to sign an agreement with Israel provided the Israelis returned | all the occupied territories, but Israel refused to withdraw to the | pre-1967 armistice lines. Since no diplomatic progress was being made | toward peace, Sadat was convinced that to change things and gain | legitimacy at home, he must initiate a war with limited objectives. | | Along the Suez Canal, 80,000 well-equipped members of the Egyptian | army who had crossed the Suez on rapidly constructed pontoon bridges | attacked fewer than 500 Israeli defenders. In the Golan Heights | approximately 180 Israeli tanks faced an onslaught of 1,400 Syrian | tanks. Initial Israeli military losses were significant and assistance | was requested from the USA. | National reconnaissance satellites did not have the capability at the | time to provide the intelligence that was needed to sufficiently | assess the situation. The 9th SRW at Beale AFB, CA was alerted to | prepare to fly SR-71 missions from Beale AFB, over the area of | conflict and recover at Royal Air Force Base Mildenhall, England, a | mission within the design capability of the aircraft, although a long | and logistically difficult mission never accomplished before in an | operational environment. | | Within the first few days of the conflict the supporting Arab nations | initiated an oil embargo, making oil a weapon of war and contributing | to a decision by the British government to deny approval to use | Mildenhall as a recovery base. | | Plan B was rapidly drawn up to fly the SR-71 out of Griffiss AFB New | York, through the area of conflict and recover back at Griffiss. These | never before accomplished 12,000 mile missions would require five air | to air refuelings, the deployment of sixteen KC-135Q supporting | tankers with special JP-7 fuel to Spain and a specialized maintenance, | intelligence and operational support planning staff to Griffiss. The | 9th SRW was well prepared and in utmost secrecy the forces were | mobilized and deployed. The first mission was successfully completed | on Oct 13th. | I was a fairly young pilot in the squadron at the time, with only one | operational tour and about 120 hours of SR-71 time under my belt. On | Oct 20th I was assigned to fly a backup SR-71 from Beale to Griffiss | and to stay at Griffiss in an alert posture, prepared to fly follow-on | missions. We flew successful missions on Oct 25th and Nov 2 where I | served as backup pilot. | | My turn as primary came up on Nov 11th. The excitement level was | high, as I certainly wanted to be part of the Air Force and the Wing | success in completing the mission as tasked. | Takeoff was at 2AM on a brisk and clear autumn night with about | fifteen inches of snow already on the ground. It was peacefully | calm---until I lit each of the 34,000 lb thrust afterburners. The | first 450 miles had to be flown subsonic at .9 Mach, since we had to | clear the commercial aircraft flight tracks out of Boston and New York | to Europe before we could safely conduct air-refueling operations. | Radio silent electronic rendezvous with three tankers, 250 miles out | over the North Atlantic at 3AM went well, as did the 70,000 lb (10,600 | gallons) fuel offload. | You don't know the true meaning of dark until you've been in a | situation like this. We likened it to refueling in an inkwell. After | completing a few post refueling checks, I lit the afterburners and | started my acceleration to a leisurely Mach 3 cruise across the | Atlantic. The airplane performed flawlessly, thanks to the extra | special effort by the maintenance guys. About 2000 miles across the | Atlantic on an easterly heading I watched with excitement as the sun | peeked over the horizon and came up right in my face, in about a | minute and a half, a nice vantage point for viewing this daily event. | | The second refueling was conducted in daylight, a couple hundred miles | north of the Azores. This was another 70,000 lb offload, 35,000 lbs | from each of two tankers while the airborne spare tanker was not | needed. I started my second acceleration and headed for the straits | of Gibraltar. Cruising through the center of the narrow straits at | 80,000 feet with clear weather 100 miles on both sides providing quite | a spectacular view. | | As we proceeded down the Mediterranean toward the mid-east the weather | grew gradually worse, as forecast. The third air refueling south of | Crete, although in poor weather, went as scheduled. After packing in a | full load of 80,000 lbs of JP-7 fuel, I lit the afterburners and | started the acceleration toward the target area. | | At .98 Mach, just prior to going supersonic, maximum fuel flow in full | afterburner, a red engine oil quantity low light illuminated steady on | my emergency warning annunciator panel. I stared at it in almost | disbelief, while scanning engine instruments, oil pressure, rpm, | exhaust gas temperature, nozzle position for other indications of | trouble. Although there were no confirming indications of problems, I | couldn't just ignore the situation and continue on into the target | area with the possibility of an engine failure at supersonic speed | over the Sinai. We had no viable emergency airfields and I did not | want to be a no-notice, no-flight plan, single engine emergency | arrival at David Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv, especially since the | Israeli government had not been informed in advance about the missions | and they were in a battle for survival. | | To my pleasant surprise, a few seconds after coming out of afterburner | the red emergency warning light went out. I was by now fairly well | convinced that it was a false momentary indication, but it had cost me | 2500 lbs of critically needed fuel. My tankers were now 80 miles | behind me heading further away. Getting rejoined to top off with fuel | would present a new set of problems. I decided to light the burners | and press on. Except for a 5 second flash during acceleration I never | saw the light again. | | My flight track went down the Suez canal past Cairo before making a | left turn at Mach 3.15 to the north across the battle lines in the | Sinai. I continued on a northerly course across the Dead Sea and over | the center of the Golan Heights with the panoramic and point cameras | providing imagery of hundreds of targets on both sides of the | aircraft. Approaching the Lebanon border I made a sweeping right turn | out over Syria and then back into the Sinai on a parallel flight path | for maximum coverage. The airplane was running well and I pushed it up | a bit to Mach 3.2 before exiting the area near Port Said. | | Once out over the Mediterranean I started a descent to 25,000 feet for | my fourth refueling. As fate would have it, not only was I low on fuel | because of my previous oil low warning problem, but also a | thunderstorm had moved in over the scheduled air refueling contact | point. My Reconnaissance Systems Officer (RSO) using electronic | azimuth and distance measuring equipment got me to within less than a | mile behind my tanker, but the visibility was so poor that I couldn't | see the tanker. We continued 20 miles down track in lousy weather with | only one half-mile and 1000 feet separation before a small break in | the clouds permitted hookup. When we made contact and started | transferring fuel I had less than 15 minutes of fuel remaining and was | 75 miles from the closest straight in emergency-landing runway on | Crete. | | We completed a fifth 70,000lb air refueling near the Azores before the | leisurely Mach 3 flight across the mid Atlantic with a landing at | Seymour Johnson AFB North Carolina. We were met by 9th SRW download | crews who had the photo and electronic intelligence equipment | downloaded and on a dedicated AF courier flight to Washington DC and | the National Photo Interpretation Center within twenty minutes. The | flight covered 12,181 miles in 10 hours 49 minutes and included 6 | hours 41 minutes of supersonic time and 5 air refuelings. After | landing, I remember wondering what Charles Lindberg would have thought | about the advancement of aviation technology in less than 50 years. | The 9th SRW was tasked to fly nine missions of this type and completed | them all successfully. | | The missions were not declassified until the early 1990's when the | SR-71 program was closed as a result of the end of the Cold War. The | airplanes are all in museums now, with tail number 964, the one I flew | that day, as the centerpiece at the Strategic Air and Space museum | near Omaha, Nebraska. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | (This article originally appeared in the McClellan Aviation Museum | Foundations newsletter 'CONTACT' and appears again here with | permission of Colonel Jim Wilson, USAF (retired), former Blackbird | pilot and now a member of the Board of Directors of that Museum. The | photograph of his aircraft appears courtesy of Lockheed-Martin | Aircraft). | | | | | | | | | | | |
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![]() "Jim Macklin" wrote in message news ![]() If you do some simple algebra, the SR-71 is much faster than the published data. As the story below shows, only about 60% of the flight time is spent at supersonic speed. Yet the speed for the flights are in the 2,000 mph range even counting the subsonic time into the average. I would expect that the maximum speed was 4,000-6,000 mph. Much of the SR71 POH is available on-line at: http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/ Section 5-8 (Flight Envelop Limits) is a good read. The whole POH is very interesting. John Severyn KLVK |
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![]() John What made this interesting was the first hand account of mission. John ```````````````````````````````` On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 19:01:30 -0800, "J. Severyn" wrote: "Jim Macklin" wrote in message news ![]() If you do some simple algebra, the SR-71 is much faster than the published data. As the story below shows, only about 60% of the flight time is spent at supersonic speed. Yet the speed for the flights are in the 2,000 mph range even counting the subsonic time into the average. I would expect that the maximum speed was 4,000-6,000 mph. Much of the SR71 POH is available on-line at: http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/ Section 5-8 (Flight Envelop Limits) is a good read. The whole POH is very interesting. John Severyn KLVK |
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"J. Severyn" wrote in
: Snipola Much of the SR71 POH is available on-line at: http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/ Section 5-8 (Flight Envelop Limits) is a good read. The whole POH is very interesting. Excellent link! I like 5-10, "Prohibited Maneuvers", "Stalls, spins, inverted flight, and intentional inlet unstarts are prohibited." Geee...ya think? ![]() Brian -- http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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![]() Jim Macklin wrote: If you do some simple algebra, the SR-71 is much faster than the published data. As the story below shows, only about 60% of the flight time is spent at supersonic speed. Yet the speed for the flights are in the 2,000 mph range even counting the subsonic time into the average. I would expect that the maximum speed was 4,000-6,000 mph. snip *really* long & cool Blackbird story Jim, you GOTTA start editing out yer replies. My monitor isn't big enough... : ) |
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