Thrown out of an FBO...

He didn't know that particular person...obviously.

mike

"John Theune" wrote in message
news:2MO4h.6608$Tz.5453@trndny01...

Actually he made a generalization about people he did know. He has had
contact with charter pilots and courtesy cars. I'd hazard to guess he's
has had more contacts in that situation then you or I have had. While his
experience does not cover all charter pilots, he does have some data
points to back his thoughts.

"mike regish" wrote in message
. ..

He didn't know that particular person...obviously.

Yes, but, the difference between Jay and the particular person is, Jay
didn't lose a customer. That particular person did. If he was the business
owner, he got away with it. Any other employee in that situation elsewhere
would probably have been pitched out the door by the owner before Jay got to
it.

I deal with abusive customers all the time...if I kicked somebody off the
network every time they said something that offended me, I'd be working
elsewhere right now.

-c

I'd say he's lost potentially many. I know I wouldn't waste my money there.

mike

"gatt" wrote in message
...

Yes, but, the difference between Jay and the particular person is, Jay
didn't lose a customer.

"John Theune" wrote in message
news:2MO4h.6608$Tz.5453@trndny01...
[...] While his experience does not cover all charter pilots, he does have
some data points to back his thoughts.

He has nowhere near enough data points to justify a comment describing "all"
charter pilots. Even the comment about whether they fill up the tank in the
car isn't supported, and I doubt he's got salary information for enough
charter pilots to even use up the fingers on one hand.

The funny thing is that he could have simply worded his statement
differently, describing only charter pilots he'd met. The guy might still
have gotten offended, but Jay would have been completely in the right to
describe the people he's actually met.

Of course, avoiding a sweeping generalization in such a manner as that is
probably something that would never occur to Jay, just as it still has not
occurred to him that he contributed to the situation somehow.

Pete

Peter Duniho wrote:

He has nowhere near enough data points to justify a comment describing "all"
charter pilots.

Do you not need more data points to dispute it?

"The Visitor" wrote in message
...
He has nowhere near enough data points to justify a comment describing
"all" charter pilots.

Do you not need more data points to dispute it?

No. To support a blanket generalization, one needs to survey the entire
population. To refute a blanket generalization, one need only survey a
single member of the population, so long as that member is a
counter-example.

Peter Duniho wrote:

He has nowhere near enough data points to justify a comment describing "all"
charter pilots.

But he didn't!!!

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...

He has nowhere near enough data points to justify a comment describing
"all" charter pilots. Even the comment about whether they fill up the
tank in the car isn't supported, and I doubt he's got salary information
for enough charter pilots to even use up the fingers on one hand.

So freaking what? Is he running for governor or something? Last I checked,
he spent money doing a favor for the guy by filling up the tank. If the guy
couldn't handle a comment by way of explanation, too bad. If Jay -really-
wanted to hurt the guy he'd simply tell us the name of the FBO and tell
everybody how bad the service was there (without explaining the argument.)
AND, he could have not filled the gas.

There's no need for salary information to make a casual comment based on his
own observation.

Of course, avoiding a sweeping generalization in such a manner as that is
probably something that would never occur to Jay, just as it still has not
occurred to him that he contributed to the situation somehow.

Again, so freaking what? I guess we better not make any lawyer jokes, used
car salesmen references, trash-talk politicians, or state our opinions of
media types because somebody who works with them might be offended.

I'm a system administrator. I deal with people all day long who have been
given the shaft by other system administrators or network types. When a
customer refers to some OTHER administrator as a net-geek, propellerhead,
etc, I damned well better not throw a fit, call the guy names and kick him
off the network (that's reserved for the spammers and frauds, which I get to
kick with total impugnity.)

-c