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On 10 Nov 2006 14:29:25 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote:
except that these voters' votes can be recounted if need be, since they did leave a verifiable paper trace unlike *your* vote... The touch screen computer printed a hard copy of my vote, which was verified by the operator. so the operator checked after every single vote? so he knew what you voted. nice. but did he show you the print and ask you to verify that you voted for X or Y? how will you know? are do you simply _trust_ the machine? #m -- Enemy Combatant http://itsnotallbad.com/ |
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:04:38 -0800, Sylvain wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote: Amazingly (to me) I was the ONLY person in line to choose to vote electronically, while everyone else in this VERY left-wing area (the last Republican elected here was in 1957) chose paper -- no doubt because of all the liberal media gibberish about how the Republicans were going to "steal" the election by using Diebold's computers... it is not gibberish that these machine are unreliable, and so easily hacked that a chimpanzee can do it (as it has been demonstrated); I would certainly never accept using these pieces of crap to vote -- note: I know a thing or two about computer science -- and would use paper if given a chance if only as a form of protest; the sooner these machines are taken offline and discarded, the better, and one way to achieve this is to refuse using them. What was really hilarious (to me) was that the people who voted on paper were then directed (as always) to feed their ballot into a (you guessed it!) computer tabulator! I just about died laughing. except that these voters' votes can be recounted if need be, since they did leave a verifiable paper trace unlike *your* vote... There was a machine at my precinct, along with six tables for marking paper ballots. There was also a guy there to help people use the machine. The guy in line ahead of me requested the machine, so I took a paper ballot. While I was coloring inside the lines, I could hear the dialog at the machine. When I left, the two guys were still trying to back out of a Cinese ballot and get one in English. (The guy in front of me was NOT identifiably Chinese.) Apparently, once the Chinese ballot was selected, accidentally or not, you couldn't get of it. It had to be voted. Otherwise, it was an invitation to voter fraud. Beta testing? You could have caught THAT with a walk-through! Don |
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On the iVotronic machine, a judge or clerk can insert the
PEB [looks like a game cartridge] and the machine will offer the chance to cancel the current ballot. It requires several steps, and has a list of reasons, such as voter request, machine errors and such. The actions are recorded on paper and the vote tally is reset down one. Then you re-insert the PEB and get the voter the correct ballot. "Don Tuite" wrote in message ... | On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:04:38 -0800, Sylvain wrote: | | Jay Honeck wrote: | | Amazingly (to me) I was the ONLY person in line to choose to vote | electronically, while everyone else in this VERY left-wing area (the | last Republican elected here was in 1957) chose paper -- no doubt | because of all the liberal media gibberish about how the Republicans | were going to "steal" the election by using Diebold's computers... | | it is not gibberish that these machine are unreliable, and so easily | hacked that a chimpanzee can do it (as it has been demonstrated); I would | certainly never accept using these pieces of crap to vote -- note: I know | a thing or two about computer science -- and would use paper if given | a chance if only as a form of protest; the sooner these machines are | taken offline and discarded, the better, and one way to achieve this | is to refuse using them. | | | What was really hilarious (to me) was that the people who voted on | paper were then directed (as always) to feed their ballot into a (you | guessed it!) computer tabulator! I just about died laughing. | | except that these voters' votes can be recounted if need be, since | they did leave a verifiable paper trace unlike *your* vote... | | There was a machine at my precinct, along with six tables for marking | paper ballots. There was also a guy there to help people use the | machine. | | The guy in line ahead of me requested the machine, so I took a paper | ballot. While I was coloring inside the lines, I could hear the | dialog at the machine. When I left, the two guys were still trying to | back out of a Cinese ballot and get one in English. (The guy in front | of me was NOT identifiably Chinese.) | | Apparently, once the Chinese ballot was selected, accidentally or not, | you couldn't get of it. It had to be voted. Otherwise, it was an | invitation to voter fraud. | | Beta testing? You could have caught THAT with a walk-through! | | Don | |
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Amazingly (to me) I was the ONLY person in line to choose to vote
electronically... Is there a paper trail? How is a recount of electronic votes done with those electronic voting machines? What was really hilarious (to me) was that the people who voted on paper were then directed (as always) to feed their ballot into a (you guessed it!) computer tabulator! .... but the paper still exists, and can be counted by trained monkeys if there is a question. Jose -- "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter). for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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On 10 Nov 2006 13:05:40 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote:
It is to weep. true. but for different reasons. #m -- Enemy Combatant http://itsnotallbad.com/ |
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