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Old November 23rd 06, 05:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Macklin
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Only because the areas left above 1200 feet are too small
and isolated.


"Newps" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
| You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace
Class
| G.
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| Sure, but nobody does because it is too impractical.


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Old November 23rd 06, 03:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Jim Macklin wrote:
Only because the areas left above 1200 feet are too small
and isolated.


Not west of the Mississippi.


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Old November 23rd 06, 01:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Newps wrote:


Jim Macklin wrote:
You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace Class G.



Sure, but nobody does because it is too impractical.


People do it all the time. You could never get off a
field without a control zone (er um, surface area of
controlled airspace designated for an airport) with out it.
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Old November 23rd 06, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Newps
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Ron Natalie wrote:

Newps wrote:



Jim Macklin wrote:

You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace Class G.




Sure, but nobody does because it is too impractical.



People do it all the time. You could never get off a
field without a control zone (er um, surface area of
controlled airspace designated for an airport) with out it.


That's not what he meant.
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Old November 23rd 06, 04:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Ron Natalie wrote:

Newps wrote:



Jim Macklin wrote:

You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace Class G.




Sure, but nobody does because it is too impractical.



People do it all the time. You could never get off a
field without a control zone (er um, surface area of
controlled airspace designated for an airport) with out it.


That is for a very short period of time, just like descending below 700
feet on many IAPs takes you into Class G airspace.
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Old November 23rd 06, 04:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
karl gruber[_1_]
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I do it all the time. Try coming out of the Sand Canyon airport on a crummy
day.

Karl
Curator" N185KG




"Newps" wrote in message
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Jim Macklin wrote:
You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace Class G.



Sure, but nobody does because it is too impractical.



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Old November 23rd 06, 04:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Jim Macklin wrote:

You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace Class
G.

Well, yes, technically you can but what do you do for an instrument
approach when you cannot leave the en route altitude under 91.177?

And, in any case, the airlines cannot fly IFR in Class G airspace except
when conducting weather avoidance. And, since most of them are above
14,500 these days that provision is mostly moot.
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Old November 23rd 06, 05:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Sam Spade wrote:



And, in any case, the airlines cannot fly IFR in Class G airspace except
when conducting weather avoidance. And, since most of them are above
14,500 these days that provision is mostly moot.


We have lots of uncontrolled airspace out here. Most of the smaller
airlines and air taxis have approval to fly in uncontrolled airspace.
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Old November 23rd 06, 06:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Newps wrote:



Sam Spade wrote:



And, in any case, the airlines cannot fly IFR in Class G airspace
except when conducting weather avoidance. And, since most of them are
above 14,500 these days that provision is mostly moot.



We have lots of uncontrolled airspace out here. Most of the smaller
airlines and air taxis have approval to fly in uncontrolled airspace.


I was speaking of the safe airlines. The FAA just doesn't learn from
its own history to let those jump jet airlines do that.
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Old November 23rd 06, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Newps
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Sam Spade wrote:

Newps wrote:



Sam Spade wrote:



And, in any case, the airlines cannot fly IFR in Class G airspace
except when conducting weather avoidance. And, since most of them
are above 14,500 these days that provision is mostly moot.




We have lots of uncontrolled airspace out here. Most of the smaller
airlines and air taxis have approval to fly in uncontrolled airspace.



I was speaking of the safe airlines.


You didn't know what you were talking about, that much is clear.


The FAA just doesn't learn from
its own history to let those jump jet airlines do that.


Don't know what a jump jet airline is. The size of an airline doesn't
affect safety. Most airlines now are under part 121.
 




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