Is it possible to switch from VFR to IFR and back?

Christopher Brian Colohan writes:

That is probably because the book is designed as supplement to IFR
training, and not as a substitute for it.

A promotional book isn't a very good supplement to any kind of
training.

The FAA publishes other books that are very informative. If it can
produce such books for VFR, which lends itself far less to book
learning, it can certainly do so for IFR. I just haven't been able to
find the right book, I think.

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Roger (K8RI) wrote:

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:14:35 +0100, Greg Farris
wrote:


In article ,
says...


If I am instrument rated and my aircraft is fully equipped for
instrument flight, and I start out a flight with a VFR flight plan,
and it gets foggy enough that I'm below minimums, is there a way to
switch to IFR in flight, or do I have to have filed IFR from the
beginning? If it's possible in flight, how does it work? Is it
possible to later switch back again?


I'm surprised this was not covered in the instrument training.

Now that's funny.

In article ,
says...


This is called "popping-up".
That means that IMC conditions may pop up at any time.
However if the pilot is not IR rated, and/or the aircraft is not IFR
certified, the weather conditions are required to revert to VMC.

I don't think that is quite the definition of "popping up", or a "pop
up clearance". Althoug it's kinda, sorta, in the neighborhood, more or
less. A pop up has little if any thing to do with conditions and a
lot to do with a pilot taking off and then air filing. He "pops up"




Tough to make a joke around here!!
Check again - are you -SURE- this is not the correct definition of
"popping-up"?

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:32:24 +0100, Greg Farris wrote:

Tough to make a joke around here!!

I got it: "...weather conditions are required to revert to VMC."

Personally, I use the weather pull down on the Reality Menu.

- Andrew

IMC - instrument meteorological conditions
IFR - instrument flight rules
IR - instrument rating

Weather is IMC
A pilot is Instrument Rated (IR)
FAA rules of flight are either IFR or VFR

You be and are subject to both IFR and VFR when flying in
VMC [not Vmc] and you are expected to do both at the same
time in many cases.



"Blanche" wrote in message
...
| IMC - instrument meteorological conditions
| IFR - instrument flight rules
| IR - instrument rating
|
| Weather is IMC
| A pilot is Instrument Rated (IR)
| FAA rules of flight are either IFR or VFR

Jim Macklin wrote:
You be and are subject to both IFR and VFR when flying in
VMC [not Vmc] and you are expected to do both at the same
time in many cases.

"Blanche" wrote in message
| IMC - instrument meteorological conditions
| IFR - instrument flight rules
| IR - instrument rating
|
| Weather is IMC
| A pilot is Instrument Rated (IR)
| FAA rules of flight are either IFR or VFR

True. I was merely pointing out definitions and usage of the
acronyms.

Roger (K8RI) writes:

It is, but the weather can be beautiful VMC and you can still "air
file" IFR. *Sometimes* IFR makes it easier through some areas and
*sometimes* going VFR can save a lot of aggrivation.

It seems--at least in simulation--that instrument flight in VFR can be
handy for flights that are of non-trivial length. You can look at the
scenery more, and relax a bit when scanning instruments. And you can
spend more time looking for traffic.

I find that some flight are just plain easier to file the whole thing
IFR, particularly out here in the open country where you can ask,
expect, and receive a direct clearance.

But once you are IFR, you can't just turn to sightsee in an area that
interests you without ATC approval, right?

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"Mxsmanic" wrote

It seems--at least in simulation--that instrument flight in VFR can be
handy for flights that are of non-trivial length. You can look at the
scenery more, and relax a bit when scanning instruments. And you can
spend more time looking for traffic.

And this is something you need to tell us here, ....Why? Why do you think we
care? This is a group for student PILOTS, not simulator game pretend pilots.

Looking at scenery on a game is far from reality. You need help, man.

But once you are IFR, you can't just turn to sightsee in an area that
interests you without ATC approval, right?

Why do you care on a simulator game? Are you afraid you are going to get a call
from the simulated air traffic controller, and get a simulated suspension, or
fine?

Get a grip on reality. Seek help. Start by putting your computer away, and
participate in the real world.
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Jim in NC

Mxsmanic,

s there a way to
switch to IFR in flight,


Yes. Press CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+I for that.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)