TSA Follies

Steve Foley wrote:

But I just installed 'Call to Duty 3'. It's just like the real thing!!!!

HA !!!

What a stupid statement !!! Everyone knows civilians can't learn to
fire a gun in simulation !!! Only real life drill instructors can
teach you how to pull a trigger !!!

You must be a troll, and I'm putting you on a list. Yeah, that's
right. You heard me. And your mother too... because she once said
something nice about you.

gd&r, kev

"Kev" wrote in news:1165446439.197794.257260
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Steve Foley wrote:

But I just installed 'Call to Duty 3'. It's just like the real thing!!!!

HA !!!

What a stupid statement !!! Everyone knows civilians can't learn to
fire a gun in simulation !!! Only real life drill instructors can
teach you how to pull a trigger !!!

You must be a troll, and I'm putting you on a list. Yeah, that's
right. You heard me. And your mother too... because she once said
something nice about you.

Nonono. You missed the point entirely.

Anyone can learn to fire a gun using "Call to Duty" if they have the proper
controller.

However, there are real-life sensations, such as intense fear for one's
life, bugs stinging your nose when you are hiding in the bushes 6 inches
from the enemy who is hunting for your, and the realization that if you
actually do fire your gun you are more likely to give away your position
and be "lit up" by the other 7 enemies who are looking for you too.

These sensations cannot be accurately duplicated in a computer game.

Perhaps they are simulated better in a full-motion simulator, such as
Paintball.

Judah wrote:
Nonono. You missed the point entirely.

Anyone can learn to fire a gun using "Call to Duty" if they have the proper
controller.

However, there are real-life sensations, such as intense fear for one's
life, bugs stinging your nose when you are hiding in the bushes [..]
These sensations cannot be accurately duplicated in a computer game.

But those sensations can't be accurately duplicated in any kind of
training, sim or not They used to fire live rounds over your head
in training, but you knew that was fake. Then they used those laser
harnesses, but that's even faker. The only way you got the real-life
sensation is when someone _really_ was trying to kill you.

Now, I'd have to agree that fear of death is one training aspect of
flying that is hard to duplicate in a sim. But perhaps if an
electrical shock was attached to the AOA value, you'd get better
training than even the death factor ;-) After all, fear alone doesn't
make you a better pilot. Learning to avoid deadly situations does.

Cheers, Kev

Kev writes:

No. That's the perspective of a civilian who's never served, and thus
has no idea who the (U.S.) military is really composed of. They're
just ordinary people, and no, they have no desire to kill anyone, or to
die themselves, any more than someone who gets a driver's license
demonstrates such thoughts.

Different people enlist for different reasons. Some of them do indeed
have a desire to kill, but certainly not all.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Different people enlist for different reasons. Some of them do indeed
have a desire to kill, but certainly not all.

Well, I was in for three years plus some weird active duty callups
after that, and I never met anyone who had a desire to kill. However,
I did meet a guy training to be a SEAL who said he loved blowing things
up. His enthusiasm worried me a bit.

:-)

Kev

Kev writes:

Well, I was in for three years plus some weird active duty callups
after that, and I never met anyone who had a desire to kill.

Unfortunately, they exist.

However, I did meet a guy training to be a SEAL who said he loved
blowing things up. His enthusiasm worried me a bit.

There are worse than that.

If someone has an intense desire to shoot people, wouldn't the
military be a logical choice of career? There aren't too many
competing options.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
If someone has an intense desire to shoot people, wouldn't the
military be a logical choice of career? There aren't too many
competing options.

Well, first off, I don't think it's a problem, since I don't meet that
many people with an intense desire to kill. Do you?

Secondly, the military is not the best choice for a killer. Remember,
support personnel are (or at least, used to be) 90% of the force. So
you only have about a 10% chance of being in a military specialty that
spends much time shooting. And, excepting recent events, wars are
rare.

The best career for a killer? As a criminal, of course. That's how
such people end up in real life.

Kev

Mxsmanic wrote:

Different people enlist for different reasons. Some of them do indeed
have a desire to kill, but certainly not all.

Some who DON't enlist have a desire to kill....
But it is harder to detect them in civilianhood and weed them out.

In a room full of guys with guns, who have to depend on each other, I
can't imagine much that would be scarier than someone who sits alone
mumbling "Kill, kill, kill".

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In a room full of guys with guns, who have to depend on each other, I
can't imagine much that would be scarier than someone who sits alone
mumbling "Kill, kill, kill".

But they wouldn't take him cuz he's a litterbug

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In a room full of guys with guns, who have to depend on each other, I
can't imagine much that would be scarier than someone who sits alone
mumbling "Kill, kill, kill".

But they wouldn't take him cuz he's a litterbug

Just stay away from the Group W bench and you'll be fine...

:O)

Jay B