Smart Turbo Diesel or VW Lugo Diesel

Philippe Vessaire wrote:


it is the 3 cylinder base derivated from the 4 cylinder Thielert.

For airplane convertion, you need a stronger PSRU with a 3 cylinder
engine versus 4 ones. I'm not sure you will have a lighter engine
assembly.


The Mercedes-Benz A-Class 1.7 liter turbodiesel used as the
core of the Thielert Centurion is all light alloy, the 1.5
liter used in the Smart ForFour and the Mitsubishi Colt has
a light alloy head and a cast iron block.
Kumaros
It's all Greek to me

kumaros wrote:

In my opinion, the Toyota
and the PSA group light alloy diesels are the way to go.

Toyota: timing chain
Peugeot: timing belt

Mo
The cast alloy bloc of PSA engine is not "well born". As a former PSA
engineer, I eared about some bloc failures on test bed. The 2l engine
is realy a better bloc but too heavy and powerful for two seater
planes.

I prefer the Toyota engine in the 90-100HP range.


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kumaros wrote:

In my opinion, the Toyota
and the PSA group light alloy diesels are the way to go.

Toyota: timing chain
Peugeot: timing belt

Mo
The cast alloy bloc of PSA engine is not "well born". As a former PSA
engineer, I eared about some bloc failures on test bed. The 2l engine
is realy a better bloc but too heavy and powerful for two seater
planes.

I prefer the Toyota engine in the 90-100HP range.

Ah. And had you been a former toyota designer,
no doubt you would prefer PSA...?

karel wrote:


I prefer the Toyota engine in the 90-100HP range.

Ah. And had you been a former toyota designer,
no doubt you would prefer PSA...?
No realy, I think the 2l and 2l2 PSA are better than the 2l and 2l2
Toyota but it is in the 140-180HP range.

Each design is different and the 2l is very heavy vs the PSA one.
For the 1l4, it is the opposite.

And for 2007, Subaru will built a 2l5 flat four diesel....

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And for 2007, Subaru will built a 2l5 flat four diesel....

That sounds very interesting!
Any pointers /web links?
Indications of cooling (liquid/air) ?
Turbo? (I should think yes)

TIA (et mes meilleurs voeux!)
KA

karel wrote:

And for 2007, Subaru will built a 2l5 flat four diesel....

That sounds very interesting!
Any pointers /web links?
Indications of cooling (liquid/air) ?
liquid
Turbo? (I should think yes)
yes


TIA (et mes meilleurs voeux!)
je mitoute... (me too)

A+
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"karel" wrote in message
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"Philippe Vessaire" wrote in message
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And for 2007, Subaru will built a 2l5 flat four diesel....

That sounds very interesting!
Any pointers /web links?
Indications of cooling (liquid/air) ?
Turbo? (I should think yes)

Voici ce que me revelait une petite recherche:

( copied from http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8fe18 ,
hope this is ok copyrightwise ) :

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Subaru is working on a boxer diesel for the European market for 2007. The
engine reportedly will be offered in the Legacy, and probably will be
offered in the Forester too.
Rumors have it as a 2.2L engine, and most likely also turbocharged. I would
also expect to see Subaru using an ally block and head, like many modern car
diesels. My guess is that Subaru also has a larger version for the
Euro-Tribeca. if you add a pair of cylinders to the 2.2 H-4, you end up with
a 3.3 H-6, which would be perfect for the larger Tribeca.
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Those who master the Teuton language may consult
http://www.kfzbetrieb.de/news/kb_beitrag_1806484.html
which has even less factual info, and is almost 2 years old.

karel wrote:

Ah. And had you been a former toyota designer,
no doubt you would prefer PSA...?

As an ATPL, I was not angry to leave PSA.



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