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![]() "Juan Jimenez" wrote in message .. . Silenced? I believe you can rest assured such is not the case. Go look him up on Google. It's amazing how loud silence can actually be, if you're listening. ![]() Juan I have no doubt that he will never be silenced, nor his critics. The one blessing is that unlike the Wrights nobody will likely be arguing about ZZZ in a hundred years. It's not so much if a tree falls, it's more a case of if you rob a liquor store and nobody can place you at the scene, you didn't do it in the eyes of any judge. I know a man who claims to have hit twenty hole-in-one shots, all without witnesses. I completely disregard his claim, as I do some others. I've hit a single hole-in-one and doubt I'll ever hit another, but my name is on the clubhouse wall and his isn't. |
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![]() "Jethro" wrote in message ... "Juan Jimenez" wrote in message .. . Silenced? I believe you can rest assured such is not the case. Go look him up on Google. It's amazing how loud silence can actually be, if you're listening. ![]() Juan I have no doubt that he will never be silenced, nor his critics. The one blessing is that unlike the Wrights nobody will likely be arguing about ZZZ in a hundred years. Could be, but you can rest assured the chances of someone talking about you in a hundred years is but a very small fraction of that. ![]() It's not so much if a tree falls, it's more a case of if you rob a liquor store and nobody can place you at the scene, you didn't do it in the eyes of any judge. chuckle The last time I checked, Lakehurst NAS used to draw literally hundreds of thousands of people, particularly for their Blue Angels performances. You gotta work on your analogies, pal. I know a man who claims to have hit twenty hole-in-one shots, all without witnesses. I completely disregard his claim, as I do some others. I've hit a single hole-in-one and doubt I'll ever hit another, but my name is on the clubhouse wall and his isn't. I tried golf. Once, got a birthday gift, 10 hours of lessons. Was being taught how to hit the ball with the #1, at the driving range. I sucked, then got a bit better and whacked one hard, up and straight down the range. The ball happened to hit a bird, one of those long legged white ones that hang out at landfills and near shorelines. I'm probably the only person in Puerto Rico to have ever accomplished such a feat at a driving range. There must have been some 50 people there, all practicing, just a 30 second walk from the clubhouse. They were all astounded. No plaque on the wall, no record. The only one I care about who was there to remember was my son. Do you think I give a flying intercourse who else remembers, whether any photos were taken, who were the witnesses, etc.? ![]() -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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![]() "Al G" wrote in message ... "Juan Jimenez" wrote in message .. . "Al G" wrote in message ... Go ask Mr. Campbell, Mike. Why come to me when you can go to the source? ![]() He made no mention of any barograph or other recoding instrument to verify any accomplishment. http://www.aero-news.net/Community/D...1905&Refresh=1 The barograph is mentioned right there next to the altitude, Al. Didn't see it in the email. Are you sure you got that email from Jim? ![]() I can't tell you or I'd have to kill you. You have seen some of his email haven't you? Apparently I should be seeking legal council right now. Unhuh. Yeah, sure. I've got no big thing for zoom, generally he is harmless to the well informed. I have not said anywhere that his flight didn't occur. I have said that he is claiming a title he has not earned, and that I, as one who has earned the title, object. All I ask is that he remove reference to "World Record", and replace it with something more appropriate, say "Personal Best". I admit that sounds reasonable, if in fact the events are as you describe them. If an advisory board member of an aviation organization claimed to be a pilot and wasn't, would you correct him? In that we do agree. That too is easily verifiable, and there is but one recognized authority. You wouldn't accept someone's unofficial license, would you? Except for the fact that you can ask to be removed from public records that state you have a license. Go look up Jim in the FAA pilot database. He's not there, but he definitely has a pilot's license, I have seen it. Juan -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Juan Jimenez wrote:
"Al G" wrote in message ... "Juan Jimenez" wrote in message .. . "Al G" wrote in message ... Go ask Mr. Campbell, Mike. Why come to me when you can go to the source? ![]() He made no mention of any barograph or other recoding instrument to verify any accomplishment. http://www.aero-news.net/Community/D...1905&Refresh=1 The barograph is mentioned right there next to the altitude, Al. Didn't see it in the email. Are you sure you got that email from Jim? ![]() I can't tell you or I'd have to kill you. You have seen some of his email haven't you? Apparently I should be seeking legal council right now. Unhuh. Yeah, sure. I've got no big thing for zoom, generally he is harmless to the well informed. I have not said anywhere that his flight didn't occur. I have said that he is claiming a title he has not earned, and that I, as one who has earned the title, object. All I ask is that he remove reference to "World Record", and replace it with something more appropriate, say "Personal Best". I admit that sounds reasonable, if in fact the events are as you describe them. If an advisory board member of an aviation organization claimed to be a pilot and wasn't, would you correct him? In that we do agree. That too is easily verifiable, and there is but one recognized authority. You wouldn't accept someone's unofficial license, would you? Except for the fact that you can ask to be removed from public records that state you have a license. Go look up Jim in the FAA pilot database. He's not there, but he definitely has a pilot's license, I have seen it. Juan It was revoked for his having failed a medical by being mentally ill. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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![]() Juan Jimenez wrote: Except for the fact that you can ask to be removed from public records that state you have a license. Go look up Jim in the FAA pilot database. He's not there, but he definitely has a pilot's license, I have seen it. Juan Well, the real questions is, with all these claims of him flying so many thousands of hours, is he actually using that license or are the hours faked... ....have you also seen his logbooks? Can he back up every flight claimed with his, own, written record? |
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![]() "DABEAR" wrote in message ups.com... Juan Jimenez wrote: Except for the fact that you can ask to be removed from public records that state you have a license. Go look up Jim in the FAA pilot database. He's not there, but he definitely has a pilot's license, I have seen it. Juan Well, the real questions is, with all these claims of him flying so many thousands of hours, is he actually using that license or are the hours faked... You're the expert on claiming aviation experience, why don't you ask him? ![]() ...have you also seen his logbooks? Can he back up every flight claimed with his, own, written record? Can you back up any aviation experience of yours with any documentation, putz? ![]() You see, cowards like you who turn tail and grow yellow stripes when asked to back up their saliva about "aviation experience" with facts do not rate any explanations. ![]() -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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![]() Juan Jimenez wrote: You're the expert on claiming aviation experience, why don't you ask him? ![]() Plan to! His Attorneys as well. It's called a subpoena. Can you back up any aviation experience of yours with any documentation, putz? ![]() Sure can...they can get that in discovery as well. You see, cowards like you who turn tail and grow yellow stripes when asked to back up their saliva about "aviation experience" with facts do not rate any explanations. ![]() Like I said, my address is all over those websites. Come visit in person and see the record. Then talk to me about cowardice... And just the same, we've got to get the new masthead completed for all the sites, so I'll make sure to include as much of the record there as I can. Needs to be there anyway... |
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I got an email from Zoom yesterday. Beyond the usual stuff: threats, get a lawyer, besmirched his rep, I made false claims, etc. Congratulations, you've won a T-Shirt. http://ousterhout.net/gallery/I've_been_zoomed.jpg Wear it proudly. John Ousterhout - rah-14 |
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![]() "John Ousterhout" wrote in message news:fbhhh.274084$FQ1.4251@attbi_s71... Al G wrote: I got an email from Zoom yesterday. Beyond the usual stuff: threats, get a lawyer, besmirched his rep, I made false claims, etc. Congratulations, you've won a T-Shirt. http://ousterhout.net/gallery/I've_been_zoomed.jpg Wear it proudly. John Ousterhout - rah-14 No **** John? Damn, I'm, well, Honored. I'd like to thank my parents, and teachers, and all the little people that made my rise to ultimate success a reality. By the way, I got another nasty gram. What is "Tortuous Interference" anyway? I wish Tony was here... Al G |
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Al G wrote:
"John Ousterhout" wrote in message news:fbhhh.274084$FQ1.4251@attbi_s71... Al G wrote: I got an email from Zoom yesterday. Beyond the usual stuff: threats, get a lawyer, besmirched his rep, I made false claims, etc. Congratulations, you've won a T-Shirt. http://ousterhout.net/gallery/I've_been_zoomed.jpg Wear it proudly. John Ousterhout - rah-14 No **** John? Damn, I'm, well, Honored. I'd like to thank my parents, and teachers, and all the little people that made my rise to ultimate success a reality. By the way, I got another nasty gram. What is "Tortuous Interference" anyway? I wish Tony was here... Al G It means you confused him. Did you use facts? Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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