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Old February 8th 07, 12:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Mark Hickey
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"Whome?" wrote:

Sorry Chuck, but Jerry is right. 99% of that stuff has just become either
feeding Juan the troll, or Campbell stuff that is so far off topic it just
doesn't belong here. Everone here realizes where that pair is coming from,
give the rest of us a break.


Is it time for a full and official shunning of both, forever? In
truth, nothing would torque them off more than being assigned
"irrelevant status". It's kinda fun to picture yawn jumping up and
yapping, looking for attention and getting not a key click in reply.

Mark Hickey
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Old February 4th 07, 10:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Morgans
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"Scott" wrote in message
...
For the past several days I have only been averaging about 1 to 5 messages
per day. That's way down from normal! I mean, there are usually that
many from Juan alone...anybody else seeing this problem?


Yep, same here.

Usually after a particularly nasty flamefest between a few members, many
people are unwilling to continue reading, so they don't read and don't post.

Give it a couple weeks.

Flamefests, as "righteous" as they may be, damage the group. Just my
opinion.
--
Jim in NC

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Old February 4th 07, 02:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Lou
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Consider how many times a person asks a question because they are
stuck or can't find the answer on an
older newsgroup page. Now consider how many completly stupid answers
he gets from the morons that don't really
know what their talking about. After a while of hearing complete
stupidity instead of helpful answers it's now wonder
the post have slowed down. I can't tell you how many times I've posted
because I want to try something different, and the
number one answer for the self appointed experts is "follow the
plans". Some answer for an experimental group.
Lou

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Old February 4th 07, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
BobR
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On Feb 4, 8:00 am, "Lou" wrote:
Consider how many times a person asks a question because they are
stuck or can't find the answer on an
older newsgroup page. Now consider how many completly stupid answers
he gets from the morons that don't really
know what their talking about. After a while of hearing complete
stupidity instead of helpful answers it's now wonder
the post have slowed down. I can't tell you how many times I've posted
because I want to try something different, and the
number one answer for the self appointed experts is "follow the
plans". Some answer for an experimental group.
Lou


Lou,

There will always be those who will not deviate from the plans for any
reason. They apparently feel that the designer took everything into
consideration and to change anything invites disaster. Even some
manufacturers will discourage any change to the plans or kit. Too
bad, that is what I always thought experimental building was all
about.

My advice, filter out the nay-sayers and keep going. Its a learning
process and the best way to learn is to experiment. You may find it
difficult though to get answers from those who only follow the exact
plans. Keep posting your questions and usually you can find some good
advice among all the flack.


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Old February 4th 07, 02:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Morgans
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"Lou" wrote in message
ups.com...
Consider how many times a person asks a question because they are
stuck or can't find the answer on an
older newsgroup page. Now consider how many completly stupid answers
he gets from the morons that don't really
know what their talking about. After a while of hearing complete
stupidity instead of helpful answers it's now wonder
the post have slowed down. I can't tell you how many times I've posted
because I want to try something different, and the
number one answer for the self appointed experts is "follow the
plans". Some answer for an experimental group.


Really? Post them again, and see what you get, now. I can't remember what
you have asked.

So sorry if they tell people not to make substitutions in structure that
will be holding their LIVES in their hands, like substituting aluminum for
steel wing hold downs. Next time you have a question like that, remind us,
and we will tell you, "no problem, go ahead and change the plans."

Seriously, if you have to ask about changing plans, and you are willing to
take a bunch of stranger's advise on making a change, then you have no
business making such a change, or probably even building an airplane.

Other questions posed here usually get a fair chance, when it is not talking
about major structural changes. I think you are giving the group a bum
wrap, on that one.
--
Jim in NC

Anyway, how many experts are left reading and posting, after exchanges that
keep going and going, with buttheads like Juan....

My advise to everyone, is to know when to stop beating your head against the
wall, and let idiots have the last word, sometimes.

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Old February 5th 07, 03:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Whome?
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On 2/4/2007 8:42:17 AM, "Morgans" wrote:

"Lou" wrote in message
oups.com...
Consider how many times a person asks a question because they are
stuck or can't find the answer on an
older newsgroup page. Now consider how many completly stupid answers
he gets from the morons that don't really
know what their talking about. After a while of hearing complete
stupidity instead of helpful answers it's now wonder
the post have slowed down. I can't tell you how many times I've posted
because I want to try something different, and the
number one answer for the self appointed experts is "follow the
plans". Some answer for an experimental group.


Really? Post them again, and see what you get, now. I can't remember what
you have asked.

So sorry if they tell people not to make substitutions in structure that
will be holding their LIVES in their hands, like substituting aluminum for
steel wing hold downs. Next time you have a question like that, remind us,
and we will tell you, "no problem, go ahead and change the plans."

Seriously, if you have to ask about changing plans, and you are willing to
take a bunch of stranger's advise on making a change, then you have no
business making such a change, or probably even building an airplane.

Other questions posed here usually get a fair chance, when it is not talking
about major structural changes. I think you are giving the group a bum
wrap, on that one.


Good job dumb ass, you just proved his point in capital letters. Next time
why don't you post it in red type.

Now take your medication and go to bed.
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Old February 5th 07, 03:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Maxwell
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"Lou" wrote in message
ups.com...
Consider how many times a person asks a question because they are
stuck or can't find the answer on an
older newsgroup page. Now consider how many completly stupid answers
he gets from the morons that don't really
know what their talking about. After a while of hearing complete
stupidity instead of helpful answers it's now wonder
the post have slowed down. I can't tell you how many times I've posted
because I want to try something different, and the
number one answer for the self appointed experts is "follow the
plans". Some answer for an experimental group.
Lou


Hi Lou, I don't know you from Adam, but I agree with this 100%. We seem
completely overwhelmed with negative contributors, and real short on
positive input. One of my observations has been how quickly someone suggests
we can solve all questions by sending the posted to search the archives. It
always completely ingores the possibility someone might have joined the
group recently with fresh input on a subject.


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Old February 5th 07, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dan[_2_]
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Maxwell wrote:
"Lou" wrote in message
ups.com...
Consider how many times a person asks a question because they are
stuck or can't find the answer on an
older newsgroup page. Now consider how many completly stupid answers
he gets from the morons that don't really
know what their talking about. After a while of hearing complete
stupidity instead of helpful answers it's now wonder
the post have slowed down. I can't tell you how many times I've posted
because I want to try something different, and the
number one answer for the self appointed experts is "follow the
plans". Some answer for an experimental group.
Lou


Hi Lou, I don't know you from Adam, but I agree with this 100%. We seem
completely overwhelmed with negative contributors, and real short on
positive input. One of my observations has been how quickly someone suggests
we can solve all questions by sending the posted to search the archives. It
always completely ingores the possibility someone might have joined the
group recently with fresh input on a subject.


Agreed, but I'd add doing an archive search isn't always easy if you
don't ask the question correctly in the first place. I have had cases
where I have gotten the answers I news groups when someone points out
the correct term for something. I would direct someone to archives if
they want more than what I can give.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old February 5th 07, 09:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Lou
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True Dan, one of my downfalls is the correct term for what I'm asking.
I've only been into flying and homebuilding for the last five years
and when I started asking questions (or even now), I would ask with
the wrong term and boy, did I hear it. On the other hand, most of the
time when I would ask a question, I would hear a from a dozen posters
that you could just tell, didn't have a clue how to answer.
Lou

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Old February 6th 07, 12:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
TigerPilot
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Usually after a particularly nasty flamefest between a few members, many
people are unwilling to continue reading, so they don't read and don't post.

Give it a couple weeks.

Flamefests, as "righteous" as they may be, damage the group. Just my
opinion.
--
Jim in NC


You are so right, Jim. In the late 90th, this group used to be the
most active group of them all. After some people joined that only had
mayhem on their mind it dwindled down to barely active. It never
really recoverd from that.

Yoram

 




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