6 reported slain at Lockheed Martin facility in Mississippi

Tarver Engineering wrote:

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Tarver Engineering wrote:

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Tarver Engineering wrote:


It is the data link that had me thinking TG was not a 757 pilot.

Who is TG? Tell us smart guy, what is this data link you keep
professing?

Oh, TJ.

You might want to look up the fourth generation VDL4, as that is where
it is
hoped that ICAO will adopt the VHF digital radio standard. The 757 is
the
demonstration vehicle for the data link. Large airlines like American
use
the data link to program their FMS systems and pass written messages to
the
crew. A similar system was demonstrated for aging DC-9-83s in
conjunction
with LAAS at Continental.

Ah, so the fact that we type in routings makes us unsafe? Canned routes
stored
IN the FMC would be grouped in the same way as being unsafe huh?

I did not wrote the word "unsafe" TJ.

LESS SAFE. Means less THAN SAFE. Either the operation is safe, or its less
safe. What did you mean then?

Large airlines like Ameriflot are PARKING airplanes and firing
employees(all
TWA, but thats another thread).

TWA employees have a lot of bad karma.

Of course you wouldnt know this, but we HAVE ACARS, have HAD ACARS and
USED
ACARS for the last two years on ALL our airplanes, 37's, 57's and the
Bus's.

But TJ, you went into great detail about how America West doesn't use the
data link!!

Hey Mumbles, what you call data link everyone else calls ACARS, IF you had said
ACARS, then I wouldve told you. We dont use data link, we use ACARS.

What YOU call data link is called ACARS by everyone else, but then you
invented
splaps and negative lift so I guess thats ok, you can call it whatever you
want,
just dont expect anyone else to know WTF you're talking about.

I am pleased you have come around to admit that you were wrong.

Wrong? How am I wrong? If you had called it rf relayed digital information I
would have said no. The World NOW knows what you are talking about is ACARS.
The term is ACARS. Not data link. Your rose by any another name is not a rose.

In this way, operator error was eliminated for the 757 type almost
completely and there were 18 years of completely safe operation.

So Ameriflot NEVER had any accidents for 18 years?

No 757 airframes were lost by anyone in that time. The development and
deployment of the data link provided safety, right up until a Service
Bulletin was ignored and the foreign NOTAM came off 180 days later.

whatever you say splappy

Hmm, we'll we're running a
close 1st with ZERO fatalities in 20yrs. But wait, we've only been in
business
for that long so I guess that makes 100% fatality free years.

I still go with 2 zeros since 1997, as the adding of a fatality back in was
probably political. Those numbers are driven by automation and hand flying
is for hobyists.

20 fatality-free years... yeah, just too bad it more of a better life than
you'll ever know.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

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