Berlin Airlift, IFR

On 12 Feb, 18:27, Peter Twydell wrote:
In message , Thomas Borchert
writesJohn,

This was the
Cold War, the planes were based in England and more eastern locations:
Holland, Fance, West Germany...

England? First I hear about that. West Germany is were they came from,
it was a really short run for most. Flying boats took off in Hamburg
harbour, landing on the Wannsee.

The flying boats were RAF Sunderlands, used for carrying salt because
their hulls were corrosion-proof.

This site contains a map showing the main bases and the inbound/outbound
routes used for flying supplies to Berlin in Operation Plainfare (RAF)
and Operation Vittles (USAF). Lots of details about the USAF, with a few
passing mentions of the RAF. GCA is mentioned under The Airlift Route
Pattern.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/Berlin_fl...inAirlift.html

--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Peter, ISTR (from reading a Sunderland book 30 odd years ago) the
Sunderlands also carried Coal

cheers

guy

"guy" wrote:

On 12 Feb, 18:27, Peter Twydell wrote:
In message , Thomas Borchert
writesJohn,

This was the
Cold War, the planes were based in England and more eastern locations:
Holland, Fance, West Germany...

England? First I hear about that. West Germany is were they came from,
it was a really short run for most. Flying boats took off in Hamburg
harbour, landing on the Wannsee.

The flying boats were RAF Sunderlands, used for carrying salt because
their hulls were corrosion-proof.

This site contains a map showing the main bases and the inbound/outbound
routes used for flying supplies to Berlin in Operation Plainfare (RAF)
and Operation Vittles (USAF). Lots of details about the USAF, with a few
passing mentions of the RAF. GCA is mentioned under The Airlift Route
Pattern.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/Berlin_fl...inAirlift.html

--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Peter, ISTR (from reading a Sunderland book 30 odd years ago) the
Sunderlands also carried Coal


I think that wherever they could stick a sack of coal in - in it
went. Those hungry power stations needed to be kept fed.

Eugene L Griessel

Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings...they did
it by killing all those who opposed them.

In 1948-50 nothing could do that, but flights came from
England and other European countries.



"rstro" wrote in message
...
| so--in other words loaded transport aircraft returned
across the Atlantic to
| their home baese???? they couldn't have possibly carried
enough fuel for
| that???
| "Sam Spade" wrote in message
| ...
| George Z. Bush wrote:
|
| Paul wrote:
|
| Anybody know what type of instrument approaches were
used to fly the
| airlift into Berlin in the 40s?
|
|
| All aircraft involved used GCA approaches for landings.
There were no
| missed approach procedures.....if you missed your
approach, you were
| automatically cleared for return to your home base. In
that way, they
| were able to keep the flow of aircraft moving and on
schedule.
|
|
http://www.historynet.com/air_sea/ai...tml?page=3&c=y
|
| George Z.
|
|
|
| That, nonetheless, is a missed approach procedure.
|
|

rstro wrote:
so--in other words loaded transport aircraft returned across the Atlantic to
their home baese???? they couldn't have possibly carried enough fuel for
that???

What makes you think they departed from the U.S.?

In article , rstro wrote:
so--in other words loaded transport aircraft returned across the Atlantic to
their home baese???? they couldn't have possibly carried enough fuel for
that???
George Z. Bush wrote:
All aircraft involved used GCA approaches for landings. There were no
missed approach procedures.....if you missed your approach, you were
automatically cleared for return to your home base. In that way, they

WTF? What on Earth makes you think that the aircraft were operating across
the Atlantic? Many of the types used wouldn't have had the legs to do
that even unladen. If you look at any map from the 1950s-start 1990s
you'll see that Berlin actually lies not-awfully-far from the old border
(couple of hundred km-ish, from memory). The bases for the airlift were in
the American, British and French occupied zones - what later became the
Federal Republic.

--
Andy Breen ~ Speaking for myself, not the University of Wales
"your suggestion rates at four monkeys for six weeks"
(Peter D. Rieden)