annual interruptus

Jay Honeck wrote:

That is a different problem and is the one that should be addressed, not
providing early retirement for teachers.


So, what are you saying, Matt? That an actuarial system should be
devised that allows every 55 year old to be able to retire with full
pension? Or only teachers?

No, I'm saying the classroom environment should be fixed so that
teachers last more than 5 years in the profession and don't need to
retire at age 55 due to burn-out.

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:

That is a different problem and is the one that should be
addressed, not providing early retirement for teachers.


So, what are you saying, Matt? That an actuarial system should be
devised that allows every 55 year old to be able to retire with full
pension? Or only teachers?

No, I'm saying the classroom environment should be fixed so that
teachers last more than 5 years in the profession and don't need to
retire at age 55 due to burn-out.

Matt

There are several factors other than burn-out that lead to that 5 year in
the profession figure. My son is now in 9th grade. Looking back at his
elementary teachers 1-5th grade teachers look like this as far a careers go.

1st- She was in her second year teaching. 1 year after my son was in her
class he got married and pregnant and stayed home with her new baby. Hasn't
returned to teaching.

2nd- Been there for many years and was in her mid 30s still teaching.

3rd- 2nd year teaching and that was 2 years too many she quit teaching and
went on to something else.

4th- Retired the next year at age 65.

5th- Had been teaching 2 or 3 years, got married the next year and became a
stay at home wife.

The point I'm getting to is that teachers change careers like lots of people
and for a number of reasons.

("Denny" wrote)
He has a really nice F model Aztec he is trying to sell me - his Part 135
machine... Ahhh temptation, get thee behind me!


"All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them:"

So, got a name picked out for the Aztec, yet? g

What's the difference in:

Fuel burn
Speed
Useful load
Speed
Avionics/radios
Speed
Comfort
Insurance
Etc.


Mont-out-of-the-blackness

On Feb 22, 3:10 pm, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote:
("Denny" wrote)

He has a really nice F model Aztec he is trying to sell me - his Part 135
machine... Ahhh temptation, get thee behind me!



So, got a name picked out for the Aztec, yet? g
Mont-out-of-the-blackness

Ahhh jeez Monty.... You are about as helpful as an alcoholic-on-the-
wagon who has drinking buddys who tell him "just one won't hurt"....


What's the difference in:

Fuel burn
Speed
Useful load
Speed
Avionics/radios
Speed
Comfort
Insurance
Etc.


in order:
If ya gotta ask ya can't afford it, pilgrim...
Lots faster than Fat Albert the Apache - 165 knots typical
Whatever you can get the doors closed on (which is why they are used
as lobster haulers)
Like sitting in your easy chair at home, and you will not rub
shoulders...
Well, it's a twin - but not near as bad is if I were ASEL wanting my
first twin...
It's loaded, Radar and a GNS430, alcohol props, etc...
Gets you respect on the ramp at strange airports... Good paint..
Average interior...

denny

Go for it Denny... the ability to fill the tanks, seats, and baggage is
awesome, and you'll love the extra power. The center seats are on rails, so
if the rear bench is empty, the center passengers can slide the seats back
and almost disappear from view! I did my initial MEL in an Apache and my
first reaction with the Aztec was HOLY CRAP! )) There is a big difference
between dual 150/160's to dual 250's. After the carburetor fun that you had
last year, you'd probably love the injected engines.

We plan for 160ktas in our C model at 23"/2400 rpms burning 25gph between
8000 and 10,000 MSL. We've have found those figures to be quite accurate.
Ours will true at 180kts, but at 2500rpms, the extra noise and fuel burn
doesn't make it very much fun.

There were two different F models with differences centered around the
horizontal stab. I'd have to do a little research to remember the
difference, anyway, the end result was that Piper changed the stab, nobody
liked it, so they changed it back to an older version.

I'll add more fuel to the fire and beg you to take it for a spin around the
patch, do some single engine work, and some short field takeoffs.... you'll
be hooked.

Jim


"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 22, 3:10 pm, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote:
("Denny" wrote)

He has a really nice F model Aztec he is trying to sell me - his Part
135
machine... Ahhh temptation, get thee behind me!



So, got a name picked out for the Aztec, yet? g
Mont-out-of-the-blackness

Ahhh jeez Monty.... You are about as helpful as an alcoholic-on-the-
wagon who has drinking buddys who tell him "just one won't hurt"....


What's the difference in:

Fuel burn
Speed
Useful load
Speed
Avionics/radios
Speed
Comfort
Insurance
Etc.


in order:
If ya gotta ask ya can't afford it, pilgrim...
Lots faster than Fat Albert the Apache - 165 knots typical
Whatever you can get the doors closed on (which is why they are used
as lobster haulers)
Like sitting in your easy chair at home, and you will not rub
shoulders...
Well, it's a twin - but not near as bad is if I were ASEL wanting my
first twin...
It's loaded, Radar and a GNS430, alcohol props, etc...
Gets you respect on the ramp at strange airports... Good paint..
Average interior...

denny

On 22 Feb 2007 13:40:01 -0800, "Denny" wrote:

On Feb 22, 3:10 pm, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote:
("Denny" wrote)

He has a really nice F model Aztec he is trying to sell me - his Part 135
machine... Ahhh temptation, get thee behind me!



So, got a name picked out for the Aztec, yet? g
Mont-out-of-the-blackness

Ahhh jeez Monty.... You are about as helpful as an alcoholic-on-the-
wagon who has drinking buddys who tell him "just one won't hurt"....


What's the difference in:

Fuel burn
Speed
Useful load
Speed
Avionics/radios
Speed
Comfort
Insurance
Etc.


in order:
If ya gotta ask ya can't afford it, pilgrim...

Well an IO 540 burns what? times two.

Lots faster than Fat Albert the Apache - 165 knots typical
Whatever you can get the doors closed on (which is why they are used
as lobster haulers)

It is big and that one doesn't smell like fish.
it's also a very docile twin. Probably not much different than Fat
Albert except for the load and speed...and fuel burn. Much more
forgiving than a Twin Comanche. OTOH the Twin is as fast as mine with
two engines and doesn't use more fuel than I do on one.
BTW I did see a guy land one (Aztec) on the nose gear and roll the
tire over.
Like sitting in your easy chair at home, and you will not rub
shoulders...

Roomy but noisy.

Well, it's a twin - but not near as bad is if I were ASEL wanting my
first twin...
It's loaded, Radar and a GNS430, alcohol props, etc...

Geezeee...were I a couple of years younger...I keep saying that more
often lately.

Gets you respect on the ramp at strange airports... Good paint..
Average interior...

Yah, but who looks past the panel.
I've wanted to get my multi rating...Buy it...learn to fly it...get
the rating...sell it for a profit? Uses how much gas in today's
market:-))

Nah, he probably wants more than I'd go. They sold that P-Baron for a
small fortune compared to what it was worth.


denny
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com