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Old March 1st 07, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack
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("Steve Foley" wrote)
The bad news is you can lose the presidency of the united States even
when you win the popular vote.


In exactly the same way that your team can score the most runs in the
World Series, but still lose.



In Game 7, Gore got thrown out trying to steal Florida. :-)


Montblack-socks


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Old March 2nd 07, 12:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_3_]
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:wiDFh.32266$kr6.7274@trndny09...
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

The bad news is you can lose the presidency of the united States even
when you win the popular vote.


In exactly the same way that your team can score the most runs in the
World Series, but still lose.


Not my post, but I agree with yours.

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Old March 1st 07, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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I think if Jay had a house on the beach in Banda Aceh a couple of Christmas
seasons ago and someone told him a big wave was coming, he'd laugh and call
them crazy.

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Mike

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I'm a uniter, not a divider. - GWB, 1999.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Any suggestions? I haven't heard from the shop this morning (they're
not open yet). I'm thinking something got jarred loose when the
new DG was installed.


It's funny -- I read the title of this thread a "WACKY AL" -- and
expected to read about Al Gore's latest lunacy.

Danged disappointing...

;-)
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Old March 1st 07, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_3_]
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"Mike Noel" wrote in message
. ..
I think if Jay had a house on the beach in Banda Aceh a couple of Christmas
seasons ago and someone told him a big wave was coming, he'd laugh and call
them crazy.

If they said it was coming because of GW, he'd been justified


http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel

I'm a uniter, not a divider. - GWB, 1999.


GWB got high marks from members of the Texas legislature, both D's and R's
and especially minorities, for his ability to bring people together.

Of course, Texas does not have the coastal and MSM crazies.


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Old February 28th 07, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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My first questions to the shop would be "Did you disconnect the vac from the
AI in any way when you changed the DG?" and "Did you blow out the
(hopefully new) DG hose before you re-connected it?

As the AI is above the DG, the AI hose and even the AI itself may have been
in their way if they accessed it from the top. It could be as simple as
they cracked a T fitting or a hard hose.

Something is preventing the AI from erecting, could it be low vac suction?
What does your suction gauge read? Could be weak springs in the AI simply
waiting for a day to show you they are tired.

Good luck
Jim



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Old February 28th 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim B wrote:
My first questions to the shop would be "Did you disconnect the vac from the
AI in any way when you changed the DG?" and "Did you blow out the
(hopefully new) DG hose before you re-connected it?


That's why it's back at the shop. I'm thinking that something got
into the AI connections.

As the AI is above the DG, the AI hose and even the AI itself may have been
in their way if they accessed it from the top. It could be as simple as
they cracked a T fitting or a hard hose.


Please, let this be the simple problem with a simple solution.

Something is preventing the AI from erecting, could it be low vac suction?
What does your suction gauge read? Could be weak springs in the AI simply
waiting for a day to show you they are tired.


Both the DG and the suction were showing good numbers/reactions. The
AI was installed in 2003 and was brand new. I'm hoping that it would
last more than 5 years.

But it's snowing here, so there's no rush.
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Old February 28th 07, 09:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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If your DG was not new, I would suggest swapping the vac hoses on the AI and
DG. This may lead you towards a cracked line or fitting. I'm not an A&P or
any kind of Instrument Tech, but I can't imagine that applying low vac to a
new instrument would do it any favors. Just an idea.

Not snowing here (yet) but we've got a Winter Storm Warning from now until
Friday night. Now calling for 9-12" on top of the 18" we got last weekend.

Jim


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Old March 1st 07, 11:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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blanche cohen wrote:
Not to be confused with Yakko or Dot...

Just had the DG replaced (went precessing 60 deg on a 90 deg turn)
yesterday. Ran the engine up and taxi'd to the ramp from the shop.
Things looked ok - no, wait! the AI is upside down. Now, I'm
used to seeing it canted to the right before everything is run up
to speed, but upside down? Waited a few minutes, nothing, but
nothing changed. Unfortunately, the shop was closed by now so I
left it on the ramp and took the bus home.

Much more mystifying...after ALL power was off, engine off, key
out, battery off, etc. the AI dial was spinning. Yes, that's right,
spinning like a top. Fast. And it didn't seem to slow down, either.
I didn't time it, but it just sat there spinning for at least
5 minutes.


Perhaps I may be off on this, but if it seemed stable upside down, is it
possible that it was accurately upside down so that the erecting
mechanism was not able to get it the right way up? I wonder if you had
resored vacuum after it started tumbling whether that would have enabled
it to precess to upright (which may take several minutes)?

Cheers Mark

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Old March 2nd 07, 01:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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In article , DR wrote:
blanche cohen wrote:
Not to be confused with Yakko or Dot...

Just had the DG replaced (went precessing 60 deg on a 90 deg turn)
yesterday. Ran the engine up and taxi'd to the ramp from the shop.
Things looked ok - no, wait! the AI is upside down. Now, I'm
used to seeing it canted to the right before everything is run up
to speed, but upside down? Waited a few minutes, nothing, but
nothing changed. Unfortunately, the shop was closed by now so I
left it on the ramp and took the bus home.

Much more mystifying...after ALL power was off, engine off, key
out, battery off, etc. the AI dial was spinning. Yes, that's right,
spinning like a top. Fast. And it didn't seem to slow down, either.
I didn't time it, but it just sat there spinning for at least
5 minutes.


Perhaps I may be off on this, but if it seemed stable upside down, is it
possible that it was accurately upside down so that the erecting
mechanism was not able to get it the right way up? I wonder if you had
resored vacuum after it started tumbling whether that would have enabled
it to precess to upright (which may take several minutes)?

Cheers Mark


Mark, et al.

Turns out (politics aside) that all of you were close. When the
next (#3) DG was installed, one of the hoses/tubes got pinched,
effectively hosing the AI. The unit itself is fine, and the repairs
have been completed and tested. Unfortunately, I won't be able
to check anything until Saturday due to anticipated horrendous
winds in Colorado.

Thanks all for the suggestions.
 




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