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Old March 6th 07, 01:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Peter Dohm" wrote

I just heard that Chicago is one to the cities campaigning for the 2016
Olympic Games; and although I have not previously taken much interest in
the
Olympics, I am willing to make an affordable contribution to the U.S.O.C.
provided that Chicago is *NOT* selected!

How about the rest of you?


Although I applaud your patriotism, and am in agreement of your dislike for
Chicago's mayor, what do you think that will do, (even if a lot of people go
along with your line of thought and make a contingent contribution) with the
best possible outcome?

Meigs will never be rebuilt, even when the current political machine is long
gone, don't you think? That is the way I see it, anyway.
--
Jim in NC


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Old March 6th 07, 02:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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I just heard that Chicago is one to the cities campaigning for the 2016
Olympic Games; and although I have not previously taken much interest in
the
Olympics, I am willing to make an affordable contribution to the

U.S.O.C.
provided that Chicago is *NOT* selected!

How about the rest of you?


Although I applaud your patriotism, and am in agreement of your dislike

for
Chicago's mayor, what do you think that will do, (even if a lot of people

go
along with your line of thought and make a contingent contribution) with

the
best possible outcome?

Meigs will never be rebuilt, even when the current political machine is

long
gone, don't you think? That is the way I see it, anyway.
--
Jim in NC


The original post only adressed the issue of consequences, and I believe
that any possibility of a major city losing an event of Olympic proportions
might have an effect on decisions in other cities.

I am not a Chicago native, nor a frequent visitor, and only visited Meigs on
one occasion many years ago. However, I always tended to thing of it in
terns of transient corporate aviation--rather than any basing of light
aircraft--and corporate aviation appears to be for more sensitive to
convenience and timeliness than to price. Therefore, since the closure had
must have inconvenienced a lot of "high rollers", and must continue to do
so, almost anything could gain some momentum.

In any case, I will be satisfied whether other municipalities view local
airports as assets or view airport closures as liabilities. Anything more
would be an unexpected, but most welcome, bonus.

Peter


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Old March 6th 07, 03:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:44:07 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote in :

Meigs will never be rebuilt, even when the current political machine is long
gone, don't you think? That is the way I see it, anyway.


You figure it would just cost to much to replicate Meigs? Is that the
rationale behind your vision?

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Old March 6th 07, 02:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:44:07 -0500, Morgans wrote:

with the best possible outcome?


Given that the vandal was just reelected, perhaps a sandstorm that buries
the entire city so it never bothers us again would be a fair consequence.
On the other hand, that's probably how many outside the US feel about the
US after the 2004 federal election.

More seriously, years of financial hardship would be nice. It may not
bring back Meigs, but it could serve as a deterrent to other locales
tempted to vandalize federal infrastructure.

On the other hand, perhaps we'd best give Chicago the pain it deserves by
helping the Olympics to be there. This hasn't done too well for several
recent host cities. And as someone that lives near NYC, I'm quite glad to
see the Olympics *not* in NYC. One little political convention was enough
nonsense; we don't need the hassles the Olympics would bring.

And I can always just avoid the place. I'd feel sorrow for NYC-dwellers
should they have to suffer this. Chicago though, gets no sympathy,

- Andrew

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Old March 7th 07, 02:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On the other hand, perhaps we'd best give Chicago the pain it deserves by
helping the Olympics to be there.


Put the Olympics there, and close O'Hare.

Jose
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Old March 7th 07, 03:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Jose wrote:

On the other hand, perhaps we'd best give Chicago the pain it deserves by
helping the Olympics to be there.


Put the Olympics there, and close O'Hare.

Jose


I heard that there are rumors that Chicago is thinking of reopening
Meigs, because the high rollers in business have noticed the (negative)
difference since the vandalism.
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Old March 7th 07, 01:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Did anyone see the Chicago bid for the Olympics? Poor old Miegs island turned in to some sort of venue. Damn shame...



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Old March 9th 07, 12:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 5, 9:44 am, "Neil Gould" wrote:
Hi all,

Two airports in our area are under "attack" by groups that would rather
not have air traffic in their new developments built beside the existing
airport or the airport taking up space in the downtown lakefront area.
While I can see many reasons why this is short-term thinking that would
not serve the best interests of the region, I realize that as a GA pilot,
I am biased. A similar situation existed in Chicago at the timeMeigswas
closed that might shed some light on the reality of our situation.

Where did the GA planes relocate, and has this had any impact on the
owners' access to or use of their planes?

Has there been any impact on the business travel to Chicago?

Is all of the traffic handled adequately by O'Hare and Midway?

Is there any record of positive or negative economic impact?

Neil


Few to zero planes to relocate because there weren't any
hangers...the country clubbers can use MDW...JG

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Old March 9th 07, 04:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Orval Fairbairn
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In article .com,
wrote:

On Mar 5, 9:44 am, "Neil Gould" wrote:
Hi all,

Two airports in our area are under "attack" by groups that would rather
not have air traffic in their new developments built beside the existing
airport or the airport taking up space in the downtown lakefront area.
While I can see many reasons why this is short-term thinking that would
not serve the best interests of the region, I realize that as a GA pilot,
I am biased. A similar situation existed in Chicago at the timeMeigswas
closed that might shed some light on the reality of our situation.

Where did the GA planes relocate, and has this had any impact on the
owners' access to or use of their planes?

Has there been any impact on the business travel to Chicago?

Is all of the traffic handled adequately by O'Hare and Midway?

Is there any record of positive or negative economic impact?

Neil


Few to zero planes to relocate because there weren't any
hangers...the country clubbers can use MDW...JG


N0 -- just people bringing $billions to Chicago every year! Stupid
people like "jgrove" are so myopic that they don't realize that those
multi-million dollar jets are there for a purpose -- to do business.

Meanwhile, he and his buddies go to the new park and smoke dope at the
rock concerts.
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Old March 10th 07, 05:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 8, 10:47 pm, Orval Fairbairn wrote:


Few to zero planes to relocate because there weren't any
hangers...the country clubbers can use MDW...JG


N0 -- just people bringing $billions to Chicago every year! Stupid
people like "jgrove" are so myopic that they don't realize that those
multi-million dollar jets are there for a purpose -- to do business.


Are they flying those "$billions" in pallets loaded with Currency, ala
the missings $6 BILLION in Iraq ??


Meanwhile, he and his buddies go to the new park and smoke dope at the
rock concerts.


Never used it, but I prefer that smell to the stench of Cigs. For
future reference, the BarFlys in the Viagra triangle prefer sailboats,
40 Foot minimum..JG


 




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