chain of events

The only sad part of this is the
couple of dickheads (Matthew Barrow and a guy going by Kilomike) who
thought this story was true.

Well, I thought it was true. I've seen enough other kinds of things
gone spectacularly wrong due to a single dumb point of failure that it
would not surprise me if something like this were in fact true.

And actual accident reports of real crashes are far more incredible.

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On Mar 10, 1:04 pm, "KM" wrote:
On Mar 10, 12:59 am, Dave S wrote:

KM wrote:
On Mar 9, 9:39 am, Dave S wrote:

Dave, you also have to understand that the ATC facilities are at two
separate locations.

I understand that perfectly. Tower in one place. VOR in another.

Dave, with all respect, you dont understand.Tower in one place,
approach controll facility in another.If you get a frequency change
and try unsucsessfuly to check on what are you gonna do? Go back to
the last assigned, right?I think the last thing you are going to do is
just keep motoring along and ignore turning to final and ignore your
TCAS.


Forgive me for asking, but if I can't raise tower and TCAS is going
off, and the CDI shows I still have not intercepted the localizer, my
first priority would be to fly the airplane on the last assigned
heading and figure out if the TCAS warning is real. Attempting to go
back to the last assigned frequency will be a low priority item, no?

KM wrote:


Dave, with all respect, you dont understand.

I understand fine. I am done however, trying to prove it to you. Got
better things to do.

On 2007-03-10, Dave S wrote:
I once was a volunteer fireman for about 10 years... in that time, we
had a big snake go slithering up equipment in a substation one night.

The 'can on the pole' transformers can go with a pretty big bang too.

One night, I got back from Brazoria with a couple of friends. I was
flying a Piper Arrow - I'd just let my passenger out, and was standing
on the wing walk.

Suddenly, a brilliant flash got my attention as one of these pole
transformers exploded - a big flash, a huge shower of sparks like a
large firework, followed by a loud 'kerpow' as the sound finally
reached us. All the lights went off, and we had to put everything away
with only our feeble flashlights for lighting.

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:43:23 -0000, Dylan Smith
wrote:

On 2007-03-10, Dave S wrote:
I once was a volunteer fireman for about 10 years... in that time, we
had a big snake go slithering up equipment in a substation one night.

The 'can on the pole' transformers can go with a pretty big bang too.

One night, I got back from Brazoria with a couple of friends. I was
flying a Piper Arrow - I'd just let my passenger out, and was standing
on the wing walk.

Suddenly, a brilliant flash got my attention as one of these pole
transformers exploded - a big flash, a huge shower of sparks like a
large firework, followed by a loud 'kerpow' as the sound finally
reached us. All the lights went off, and we had to put everything away
with only our feeble flashlights for lighting.
What you witnessed was likely an explosive line fuse. These fuses are
usually mounted on the same pole as the transformer. Transformers
rarely explode, but it does happen. Usually though, the line current
exceeds the rating of the fuse and the fuse explodes to open the
circuit. This prevents the transformer from exploding.
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F. Reid writes:

Further more, are you gonna see a transformer go at 30 miles.

At least this part is certainly possible. If it's a large transformer with an
arcing failure and the weather is reasonably clear, you'll see it. It's
essentially a multimegawatt arc lamp, brighter than a lighthouse.

Do you really think the airport would
go dead (Like the scene in the movie Airplane when the guy in the
tower pulls the plug).

If it's a very large and important transformer, it might, until emergency
supplies could take over (but I would expect immediate transfer, not seconds
of delay).

An A340 doesnt even need ground based equipment to fly an approach.

How does it line up with the runway and land?

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