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Mx is now forging other peoples monikers - beware!



 
 
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Old March 25th 07, 02:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Steve Foley writes:

Who would be the victim? Someone with the initials Mx?


If a person can be damaged by posts forged with his pseudonym, then a person
can be damaged by accusations directed to his pseudonym. You cannot have your
cake and eat it, too.

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Old March 25th 07, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip
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On Mar 25, 2:58 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Steve Foley writes:
Who would be the victim? Someone with the initials Mx?


If a person can be damaged by posts forged with his pseudonym, then a person
can be damaged by accusations directed to his pseudonym. You cannot have your
cake and eat it, too.


Or fruitcake in your case.


Bertie

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Old March 25th 07, 02:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


Mx has forged my moniker on several postings in the sim group, ...


Identity theft is a serious crime. Unless you are able to support
your allegation with incontestable fact, you are guilty of libel, for
which you are open to prosecution, sir.


Forging USENET monikers is "identity theft"? Worse, it's a crime? And
falsely accusing one of forging said monikers is libel?

Sir, I think you need to step into the real world yourself.

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Old March 25th 07, 03:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Mx is now forging other peoples monikers - beware!

John T writes:

Forging USENET monikers is "identity theft"? Worse, it's a crime? And
falsely accusing one of forging said monikers is libel?


You'd have to show some sort of damage to use these appellations.

If a person posts with a name that clearly associates the post with a real
person (or allows this to be done easily), and someone impersonates him in a
post using the same name, with a post that damages his reputation, he may have
a claim against the forger.

Similarly, if a person false accuses someone of forgery and this results in
some sort of real-world prejudice against that person (cancellation of an
account, trouble with an employer, etc.), then the person accused also has a
claim.

If it's just a matter of trading worthless insults in cyberspace alone, there
generally is nothing to justify legal action.

If you think someone is forging your posts, and you wish to complain, there
are some things you should keep in mind. First is that, unless it is a very
egregious case of forgery that does real damage to you, most ISPs and
providers will ignore your complaints. Second is that, if it does damage you
in some way, you need to be able to provide that objectively; hurt feelings
and pride do _not_ count. Third is that, if your posts are being forged, you
can point out the forgery and complain about it, but don't accuse anyone of it
specifically unless you have objective proof--because, if you are wrong, and
the other person suffers any damage as a result of your accusation, you could
find yourself in quite a bit of hot water, much more than you bargained for.

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Old March 25th 07, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip
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Default Mx is now forging other peoples monikers - beware!

On Mar 25, 3:03 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
John T writes:
Forging USENET monikers is "identity theft"? Worse, it's a crime? And
falsely accusing one of forging said monikers is libel?


You'd have to show some sort of damage to use these appellations.

If a person posts with a name that clearly associates the post with a real
person (or allows this to be done easily), and someone impersonates him in a
post using the same name, with a post that damages his reputation, he may have
a claim against the forger.

Similarly, if a person false accuses someone of forgery and this results in
some sort of real-world prejudice against that person (cancellation of an
account, trouble with an employer, etc.), then the person accused also has a
claim.

If it's just a matter of trading worthless insults in cyberspace alone, there
generally is nothing to justify legal action.

If you think someone is forging your posts, and you wish to complain, there
are some things you should keep in mind. First is that, unless it is a very
egregious case of forgery that does real damage to you, most ISPs and
providers will ignore your complaints. Second is that, if it does damage you
in some way, you need to be able to provide that objectively; hurt feelings
and pride do _not_ count. Third is that, if your posts are being forged, you
can point out the forgery and complain about it, but don't accuse anyone of it
specifically unless you have objective proof--because, if you are wrong, and
the other person suffers any damage as a result of your accusation, you could
find yourself in quite a bit of hot water, much more than you bargained for.


Bwawhahwhahwhahwhhwahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahwhhahw!


God you're a fjukkkwit.



Bertie

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Old March 25th 07, 04:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
CRaSH
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Default Mx is now forging other peoples monikers - beware!

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

If you think someone is forging your posts, and you wish to
complain, there are some things you should keep in mind. First is
that, unless it is a very egregious case of forgery that does real
damage to you, most ISPs and providers will ignore your complaints.
Second is that, if it does damage you in some way, you need to be
able to provide that objectively; hurt feelings and pride do _not_
count. Third is that, if your posts are being forged, you can point
out the forgery and complain about it, but don't accuse anyone of it
specifically unless you have objective proof--because, if you are
wrong, and the other person suffers any damage as a result of your
accusation, you could find yourself in quite a bit of hot water,
much more than you bargained for.


Bwawhahwhahwhahwhhwahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahwhhahw!


God you're a fjukkkwit.



I'm absolutely certain Mxmoron has heard every legal defense possible!!!
How could a no account piece of **** like this have survived otherwise??


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Old March 25th 07, 03:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.disasters.aviation
Bertie the Bunyip
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Default Mx is now forging other peoples monikers - beware!

On Mar 25, 2:15 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:07:46 -0500, "CRaSH"
wrote in :

Mx has forged my moniker on several postings in the sim group, ...


Identity theft is a serious crime. Unless you are able to support
your allegation with incontestable fact, you are guilty of libel, for
which you are open to prosecution, sir.




Forging a usenet post isn't anything like a crime, and believe me,
I've seen plenty of it. Unless the forger actually uses another
poster's e-mail addie, it isn't even forging. It's known as "frogging"
in fact.... Making statements like you just have above will get you
nothing but a CNOTM award.

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Old March 25th 07, 06:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.disasters.aviation
Eeyore[_2_]
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

On Mar 25, 2:15 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:07:46 -0500, "CRaSH"
wrote in :

Mx has forged my moniker on several postings in the sim group, ...


Identity theft is a serious crime. Unless you are able to support
your allegation with incontestable fact, you are guilty of libel, for
which you are open to prosecution, sir.


Forging a usenet post isn't anything like a crime, and believe me,
I've seen plenty of it. Unless the forger actually uses another
poster's e-mail addie, it isn't even forging. It's known as "frogging"
in fact.... Making statements like you just have above will get you
nothing but a CNOTM award.


Didn't stop you imposting me once did it ?

Graham


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Old March 27th 07, 03:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.disasters.aviation
Bertie the Bunyip
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Default Mx is now forging other peoples monikers - beware!

On 25 Mar, 06:48, Eeyore
wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
On Mar 25, 2:15 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:07:46 -0500, "CRaSH"
wrote in :


Mx has forged my moniker on several postings in the sim group, ...


Identity theft is a serious crime. Unless you are able to support
your allegation with incontestable fact, you are guilty of libel, for
which you are open to prosecution, sir.


Forging a usenet post isn't anything like a crime, and believe me,
I've seen plenty of it. Unless the forger actually uses another
poster's e-mail addie, it isn't even forging. It's known as "frogging"
in fact.... Making statements like you just have above will get you
nothing but a CNOTM award.


Didn't stop you imposting me once did it ?


Another fjukkwit heard from .


Did you even read the post you retard netkkkkop?



Bertie

  #10  
Old March 25th 07, 05:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BDS
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Default Mx is now forging other peoples monikers - beware!


"Larry Dighera" wrote
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:07:46 -0500, "CRaSH"
wrote in :

Mx has forged my moniker on several postings in the sim group, ...


Identity theft is a serious crime. Unless you are able to support
your allegation with incontestable fact, you are guilty of libel, for
which you are open to prosecution, sir.


Now that's funny!

BDS


 




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