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Old April 18th 07, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Tim[_4_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote...
Tim writes:

Yes, it will. Try it - if you're good enough you will see it happen. If
not, you have to practice your 360s.


It doesn't happen. I did try it, in perfect weather, at 2500' MSL over
Southwest Oregon Regional Airport, using the autopilot to make a perfect
turn
with a constant altitude. No bump.


Then you did something wrong because it definitely does happen.

BDS


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Old April 18th 07, 04:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Tim wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote...

Tim writes:


Yes, it will. Try it - if you're good enough you will see it happen. If
not, you have to practice your 360s.


It doesn't happen. I did try it, in perfect weather, at 2500' MSL over
Southwest Oregon Regional Airport, using the autopilot to make a perfect
turn
with a constant altitude. No bump.



Then you did something wrong because it definitely does happen.

BDS


Tim, get with the program, man. Mxsmanic has never flown anything other
than Microsoft Flight Simulator. Seriously.

Rip
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Old April 18th 07, 01:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Rip" wrote

Tim, get with the program, man. Mxsmanic has never flown anything other
than Microsoft Flight Simulator. Seriously.


That's what we are talking about.

Even in MSFS you can see the effect of flying back through your own
turbulence when doing a proper 360.

BDS


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Old April 18th 07, 05:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Apr 17, 5:18 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Tim writes:
Yes, it will. Try it - if you're good enough you will see it happen. If
not, you have to practice your 360s.


It doesn't happen. I did try it, in perfect weather, at 2500' MSL over
Southwest Oregon Regional Airport, using the autopilot to make a perfect turn
with a constant altitude. No bump.

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Can you set an autopilot to do a 60 degree bank angle turn? Mine
won't do that.

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Old April 18th 07, 06:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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swag writes:

Can you set an autopilot to do a 60 degree bank angle turn? Mine
won't do that.


It depends on the autopilot. On large aircraft you can, although they usually
won't go to 60 degrees.

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Old April 18th 07, 08:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Apr 17, 11:39 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
swag writes:
Can you set an autopilot to do a 60 degree bank angle turn? Mine
won't do that.


It depends on the autopilot. On large aircraft you can, although they usually
won't go to 60 degrees.

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so didyou when you did your "test flight?" You won't encounter a bump
from wake turbulence unless you are doing a steep turn ( like 45
degree bank angle which should take 19 seconds to go 360)

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Old April 18th 07, 09:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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swag writes:

so didyou when you did your "test flight?"


In the sim? No, there was no bump.

You won't encounter a bump from wake turbulence unless you are
doing a steep turn ( like 45 degree bank angle which should
take 19 seconds to go 360)


Why would the steepness of a turn matter?

A 2-G turn is rather close to the load limits for many types of aircraft.

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Old April 18th 07, 09:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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swag writes:

so didyou when you did your "test flight?"


In the sim? No, there was no bump.

You won't encounter a bump from wake turbulence unless you are
doing a steep turn ( like 45 degree bank angle which should
take 19 seconds to go 360)


Why would the steepness of a turn matter?

A 2-G turn is rather close to the load limits for many types of aircraft.


What a dumb ****! Are you kidding???

If someone rolled your brain up in to a ball, and rolled it down a razor
blade -
it would look like a B-B rolling down a four lane highway.


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Old April 20th 07, 04:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Apr 18, 2:45 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
swag writes:
so didyou when you did your "test flight?"


In the sim? No, there was no bump.

You won't encounter a bump from wake turbulence unless you are
doing a steep turn ( like 45 degree bank angle which should
take 19 seconds to go 360)


Why would the steepness of a turn matter?

A 2-G turn is rather close to the load limits for many types of aircraft.

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The steepness matters for two reasons
1. the time of the turn matters to whether the wake turbulance is
dissipating
2. the bank angle changes the rate of descent of the wake
So if you are doing a standard rate turn that takes two minutes, you
will not hit youur wake. But if you do a 2g turn (around 45 degrees)
it should take 19 seconds and you will hit your wake.
3. a 2 g turn should not be close to the load limits of any airplane
certificated in the standard (let alone the utility) category. My
airplane ( a P337) is certificated as standard, not utility. the load
limits ar +3.8 flaps up. And is approved for turns up to 60 degrees.

 




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