OT - 10 steps to fascist police state

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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In a country where the "top 1% control 90% of the wealth", the film
argues that the media system is nothing but a "subsidiary of corporate
America."

Dead-on truth.

All movies, music and other entertainment is calculated based on not how
good or socially useful it is, but on how much money it makes the parent
corporation. (ie Sony.)

-chris

All movies, music and other entertainment is calculated based on not how
good or socially useful it is, but on how much money it makes the parent
corporation. (ie Sony.)

Do you really want movies to be made based on their "societal
usefulness"? Who gets to decide what is "societaly useful"? Who
decides what kind of society we should have?

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
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All movies, music and other entertainment is calculated based on not how
good or socially useful it is, but on how much money it makes the parent
corporation. (ie Sony.)

Do you really want movies to be made based on their "societal
usefulness"?

"societal"?

Not always, but, should we stick with the status quo, where a bleach-blonde
ex-stripper predictably ODs and gets more media time than all of the
soldiers killed overseas this month combined? Should stick with the status
quo where pictures of Cho draw viewers, which equates to higher ratings,
which equates to higher ad revenue, which equates to higher salaries for the
executives? That way, executives, advertisers and investors can make tons
of money off of things like Cho, Columbine, 9/11 and Anna Nicole Smith. I
don't happen to find "motherfu*cking snakes on a motherf*cking plane" likely
to promote intellectual stimulation, but it sure made a handful of people a
crapload of money and robbed quite a few million of $7.50 or whatever.

Who gets to decide what is "societaly useful"?

Movies about how drugs, violence and promiscuous sex are genuinely bad would
be better than Snoop Dog's Girls Gone Wild extravaganza and all its
miscellaneous internet-porn spinoffs. We put garbage into society, we get
garbage out of society. It's true that society buys into it but the only
reason it's there is because somebody figured out that if you get a
weed-smoking rap star and some naked underage drunk girls, you can make
millions.

Who decides what kind of society we should have?

In reality? The people who make celebrity cult heroes out of Michael
Jackson and Tupac, who hire only anorexic coke whores for their magazine
covers, who give record contacts to people like Tupac and Brittney Spears,
who think that what we -really- need is another Friday the 13th movie, and
who market candy and soft drinks to children, gangster rap and Grand Theft
Auto games to teenagers, and ad-driven political hate radio to adults.

In a perfect world, WE decide what kind of society we should have, not a
handful of top-level media conglomerates such as Sony, Disney, Entercomm,
etc.

-c
holy crap... I'm a rock musician; I can't believe I'm saying all this
stuff. But there it is...

Do you really want movies to be made based on their "societal
usefulness"?
...Should stick with the status
quo where pictures of Cho draw viewers, which equates to higher ratings,
which equates to higher ad revenue, which equates to higher salaries for the
executives?...

I don't even know (or care) who "Cho" is. Why? Because I choose what I
watch. Do you? If you don't, that is a problem. But if you do, then
why do you want to choose what =I= and everybody else watches?

Movies about how drugs, violence and promiscuous sex are genuinely bad would
be better than Snoop Dog's Girls Gone Wild extravaganza...

Oh. That's what you want us all to watch? What if we don't =want= to
fill our brains with purple dinosaurs? You want to make movies about
how drugs, violence and promiscuous sex are genuinely bad, go make them.
It's not all that hard. The hard part is forcing people to sit
through them.

Who decides what kind of society we should have?
In reality? The people who make celebrity cult heroes out of Michael
Jackson and Tupac,

No, that misses the mark. In rality, =each= of us, acting individually,
decide what kind of society we have. That includes a society in which
we are permitted to eat red meat and soft boiled eggs, a society in
which we are permitted to jump out of perfectly good airplanes, in which
we are allowed to swim naked in our own back yards, in which we are
allowed to raise our children the way =we= see fit, and not by vote of
the Grand Canonical Ensemble.

If you don't like what you choose to watch, turn off the TV. But if you
don't like what your neighbor watches, why is it your business?

And what if your neighbor doesn't like what =you= watch?

Jose
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:40:53 -0400, "John T"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


This motion picture will change your life:

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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


Remember this post the next time you start complaining about
off-topic threads here...

I'll be happy to comply with your request just as soon as you provide
an explanation of the aviation information contained in your articles
posted in rec.aviation.piloting referenced below:

The important part is I don't complain about off-topic threads. Do any of
those links show otherwise?

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:19:37 -0400, "John T"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


Remember this post the next time you start complaining about
off-topic threads here...

I'll be happy to comply with your request just as soon as you provide
an explanation of the aviation information contained in your articles
posted in rec.aviation.piloting referenced below:

The important part is I don't complain about off-topic threads. Do any of
those links show otherwise?

Another important fact is, that I don't complain about off-topic
threads to other than the individual who initiated the original
off-topic article. Once the barn door is open, ...

On 2007-04-24 07:42:40 -0700, "Private" said:

Well written and thought provoking IMHO

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html

Yeah, yeah. This sort of tripe gets published about every politician
since Hitler. Before Hitler, you just called your political opponents
drunkards, sexual perverts, anti-Christs, and aristocrats. Both Thomas
Jefferson and King George III were compared to Nero by their political
enemies. Surely there must be some sort of Godwin's law for newspaper
editorials.

You could have said the same thing about the Clinton administration and
Janet Reno (in fact I did, largely in jest -- but one must be vigilant
about one's civil rights). Remember the complaints about "jack-booted
thugs?" And every President, Prime Minister, attorney general, and
similar person before that draws similar comparisons. The faces change,
the vitriol stays the same.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:42:40 GMT, "Private"
wrote:

Well written and thought provoking IMHO

If laughing so hard that I fall of my chair counts as thought
provoking, OK.

The rise of Fascism relies on people having the notion that their own
prosperity, power and security derive from being a member of some
collective. Individualism, as expressed by capitalism, is the absolute
antidote to fascism.

So, if you want to avoid a fascist state, then adopt the Gates, and
the Jobs, and the CEO's who pull in mega salaries as your heroes. So
long as the individual is free excel, and admired rather than envied
when he gets rich, we will not have fascism here.

It is when equality becomes more our goal than excellence that the
jackboots draw near.

Don



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