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Old June 5th 07, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
mike regish
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Default Gasohol

Probably because the water test with a graduated tube was a lot easier,
cheaper and probably more accurate.

When we first got the ethanol here, I was filling my plane from cans that I
had for awhile before I noticed the ethanol sticker. (I always looked, too)
I dumped 5 gallons into a partial tank before I checked just to make sure.
It came up exactly 10%, which is what the pump label says (no more than
10%). I shook up the plane to mix the gas and took a sample. That came up as
3%. I siphoned it all into my car. Fortunately, I hadn't started the plane
with it.

mike

"Tri-Pacer" wrote in message
. ..

The reagent appears to be methylrosaniline chloride.

See U.S. Pat. 5,229,295 issued to Basil B. Travis of Lodi, CA.

A colorimetric test for alcohols (any alcohol) comprises
0.1% gentian violet dye in mineral oil suspension which
when shaken with fuel causes the fuel to become purple
when there is at least 1% alcohol present. The purple color
is proportional to the alcohol concentration in the range 1%
to 5% where the percentage of alcohol may be estimated
by the intensity of the purple color.
snip
As it is perhaps well known, gentian violet dye is chemically
methylrosaniline chloride and has been used as both a
bacteriological and histological stain ...


Wow we're getting somewhere.

I wonder why he quit packaging it and selling the stuff.

Paul
N1431A
KPLU



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Old June 6th 07, 02:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Dave Butler
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As it is perhaps well known, gentian violet dye is chemically
methylrosaniline chloride and has been used as both a
bacteriological and histological stain ...


http://dermatology.about.com/library...gentviolet.htm

Definition: Gentian Violet is a purple dye that is used to treat
vaginal yeast infections and thrush. The dye is "painted" on the
infection and kills the fungus. It can stain clothing.
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Old June 5th 07, 12:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Darrel Toepfer
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Default Gasohol

"Tri-Pacer" wrote:

Sportys used to sell a test kit that contained a chemical that would
turn purple if added to a fuel sample that was gasahol.

I have no idea of what the chemical was. It was a very easy to test
the fuel. They claim that their supplier no longer exists. I bought a
bunch of the kits and have about 1/2 a vial of the chemical left.

I sure would like to know what the reagent is that was used.


Less than $3 a tube...

http://www.rectorseal.com/index.php?...product_id=163

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT...MT4NO=23640151

https://pe.cenex.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=468

http://www.icrc.org/emergency-
items/Volume1/07TRA/315TVECFUELWDTC/315TVECFUELWDTC.htm

http://www.rectorseal.com/index.php?...product_id=162
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Old June 5th 07, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Darrel Toepfer
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Less than $3 a tube...

Don't tell Jim, he'll try to corner the market like the Hunt Bros...

See if you'd held onto that silver for 25 years, you'd have something,
besides silver...
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Old June 5th 07, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Blueskies
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"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message . 18...
"Tri-Pacer" wrote:

Sportys used to sell a test kit that contained a chemical that would
turn purple if added to a fuel sample that was gasahol.

I have no idea of what the chemical was. It was a very easy to test
the fuel. They claim that their supplier no longer exists. I bought a
bunch of the kits and have about 1/2 a vial of the chemical left.

I sure would like to know what the reagent is that was used.


Less than $3 a tube...

find water stuff snipped


Not looking for water, we're looking for alcohol...


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Old June 5th 07, 02:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Darrel Toepfer
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"Blueskies" wrote:

Not looking for water, we're looking for alcohol...


Mybad, sorry... Sorry 'bout that...

Follow Jay, he's kneaux's where all the "water"ing holes are... ;-)

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Old June 5th 07, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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"Blueskies" wrote in message
t...

"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message

. 18...
"Tri-Pacer" wrote:

Sportys used to sell a test kit that contained a chemical that would
turn purple if added to a fuel sample that was gasahol.

I have no idea of what the chemical was. It was a very easy to test
the fuel. They claim that their supplier no longer exists. I bought a
bunch of the kits and have about 1/2 a vial of the chemical left.

I sure would like to know what the reagent is that was used.


Less than $3 a tube...

find water stuff snipped


Not looking for water, we're looking for alcohol...


Actually many of us are curious about each, and some of use would be
interested to know both.

Peter


  #8  
Old June 5th 07, 04:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Not looking for water, we're looking for alcohol...

Actually many of us are curious about each, and some of use would be
interested to know both.


That is the supposed beauty of Alka Seltzer, is that it fizzes on both
water *and* alcohol...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

  #9  
Old June 6th 07, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Blueskies
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com...
Not looking for water, we're looking for alcohol...


Actually many of us are curious about each, and some of use would be
interested to know both.


That is the supposed beauty of Alka Seltzer, is that it fizzes on both
water *and* alcohol...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Your alka seltzer fizzes in water. It all by itself does not detect alcohol...


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Old June 5th 07, 02:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley
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Call up Sportys and tell them you need an MSDS for it.


"Tri-Pacer" wrote in message
. ..
Sportys used to sell a test kit that contained a chemical that would turn
purple if added to a fuel sample that was gasahol.

I have no idea of what the chemical was. It was a very easy to test the
fuel. They claim that their supplier no longer exists. I bought a bunch of
the kits and have about 1/2 a vial of the chemical left.

I sure would like to know what the reagent is that was used.

Cheers:

Paul
N1431A



 




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