Argument against high gas prices

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Ah, yeah. All the people talking about it all the time aren't really
concerned.

Sure they are talking about it. But when push comes to shove they still
drive the same way they did when gas was 1.50/gal.

No they don't. For instance: General aviation. Pretty soon, only the
wealthy will be able to afford it. That will hurt the folks making $25,000
teaching them to fly, and the businesses that are struggling to make ends
meet, but it sure won't hurt the super wealthy.

At 10gph, I'd fly a hell of a lot more if fuel was 1.50/gallon. To me this
seems abundantly obvious.


-c

gatt wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Ah, yeah. All the people talking about it all the time aren't
really concerned.

Sure they are talking about it. But when push comes to shove they
still drive the same way they did when gas was 1.50/gal.

No they don't. For instance: General aviation. Pretty soon, only
the wealthy will be able to afford it. That will hurt the folks
making $25,000 teaching them to fly, and the businesses that are
struggling to make ends meet, but it sure won't hurt the super
wealthy.
At 10gph, I'd fly a hell of a lot more if fuel was 1.50/gallon. To
me this seems abundantly obvious.




They did this past holiday weekend. The downward trend in GA since the 70's
is not inline with the price of gas. Something else is at work there and
until the aviation community figures out what it is the trend will continue.

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"gatt" wrote:

At 10gph, I'd fly a hell of a lot more if fuel was 1.50/gallon. To me this
seems abundantly obvious.

otoh - at 8.5 gph, fuel costs have no impact on my ability to fly. Heck, my
flying budget has seen more flexibility since I moved out of a hangar (at
$505/month) to a tie-down at $50/month. That $455/month pays for
a LOT of fuel.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

On Jun 8, 2:24 pm, "gatt" wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in ...

Ah, yeah. All the people talking about it all the time aren't really
concerned.

Sure they are talking about it. But when push comes to shove they still
drive the same way they did when gas was 1.50/gal.

No they don't. For instance: General aviation. Pretty soon, only the
wealthy will be able to afford it. That will hurt the folks making $25,000
teaching them to fly, and the businesses that are struggling to make ends
meet, but it sure won't hurt the super wealthy.

At 10gph, I'd fly a hell of a lot more if fuel was 1.50/gallon. To me this
seems abundantly obvious.

-c

I too am a pilot. Aviation, even in the US, has it's challenges.
Fuel price is only one of many. We would be better off if we could
get rid of the LL and use only autogas. That alone would lower the
price appreciably.

gatt wrote:

At what point do we say "It's not the oil company's job to keep oil
prices as low as possible, but it's America's job to protect its own
economy instead of letting Exxon make record profits while the entire
US economy suffers?"

The economy is suffering? The DJIA is in record territory.

Hey, how about you quit sucking the gub'mint peepee and have them give up
their 45 cents a gallon for sitting there and doing nothing (and, yes, half
of fuel taxes goes into the general toilet...I mean general fund; the vast
majority otherwise goes to prok-barrel projects, such as freeways to no
where in Wet Virginia, or bridges to no where in Alaska)



If you guys want to get Draconian about it, I think it's perfectly
fair for Uncle Sam to push back. Don't Tread on Me, et al.

Thug!

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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The economy is suffering? The DJIA is in record territory.

Hey, how about you quit sucking the gub'mint peepee

Excuse me? I'm sorry, I guess I expected better from this forum. But in
case anybody else is interested, check this out:

"The latest spike in fuel costs is putting the squeeze on Puget Sound
transportation companies, which are passing along the cost to customers if
they can.
As of April 19, a gallon of regular gasoline cost on average about $2.09
along the West Coast, according to the U.S. Department of Energy. That's an
18-cent-per-gallon increase from a year ago. The U.S. average was $1.81 a
gallon, an increase of about 24 cents from a year ago. "

$2.09 a gallon! The horror. Of course, the article is old: April 2004.
What I'd like to know (from somebody who isn't a stock holder making
generalizations about "sucking the gub'mint peepee") is,

How come gas prices have nearly doubled since April 2004. What? Did a war
break out? A sudden oil crisis? Did the worldwide demand for oil suddenly
double? Did Katrina wipe out half the world's refineries?

What happened? What excuse are we all going to accept for the cost of fuel
doubling since 2004 while oil industries make record profits (and complain
about how expensive it is to build refineries) and people continue to
pretend that it doesn't somehow effect the entire economy?

(and, yes, half of fuel taxes goes into the general toilet...I

That's right. Blame the government. LOOK OVER THERE, EVERYBODY, AND PRETEND
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PRICE OF A BARREL OF OIL!

-c

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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gatt whined...and whines...and whined:


It's when the government gets involved that everything will get really
screwed up.

Every time, in every way.

The only surpluses that government creates are parasites, elsewise, they
only create shortages.

This, one can thnk for mental midgets like "gatt" and a couple generations
of publik skool grauites. For this, Walter Williams must explain it using
terms and concepts a ten yeaar-old can grasp...sometimes.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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This, one can thnk for mental midgets like "gatt" and a couple generations
of publik skool grauites. For this, Walter Williams must explain it using
terms and concepts a ten yeaar-old can grasp...sometimes.

Wow. Well, I was hoping for an intelligent debate that might dampen my
convictions a little, but instead I got attacked personally by somebody who,
by noticeable coincidence, is an oil industry investor.

Go figure. And rants about "publik skools" and the government to boot.
Unfortunately I'm not longer surprised by this sort of ad hominem behavior
from oil industry types, and it has only deepened my conviction that they
are greedy and intellectually dishonest.

If I want to be attacked by anti-American oil whores I'll go to Yemen.
*plonk*

-c