Things you cannot say without raising security concerns...

tjd wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.

It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html


OK, Now I understand what happened. ATC didn't understand what was said and
couldn't contact the pilot to clear it up.

"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had heard,
but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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tjd wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.

It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html


OK, Now I understand what happened. ATC didn't understand what was said
and couldn't contact the pilot to clear it up.

"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had heard,
but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

He's flying over an AF base and turns off his radio?

In article ,
"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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tjd wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.

It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html


OK, Now I understand what happened. ATC didn't understand what was said
and couldn't contact the pilot to clear it up.

"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had heard,
but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

He's flying over an AF base and turns off his radio?

I like the bit about, "As a courtesy, the pilot informed the air traffic
tower at the base that he was entering the base¹s airspace."

In article ,
"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...
tjd wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.

It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html


OK, Now I understand what happened. ATC didn't understand what was said
and couldn't contact the pilot to clear it up.

"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had heard,
but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

He's flying over an AF base and turns off his radio?

Once one reports clear of the CDAS there is not longer any requirement
to remain on frequency.

Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right. If I were overflying a military
base, the last thing I'd do is engage in a
conversation about competitive advantages
and hostile workplaces. If, for some un-
fathomable reason, I didn't want to reveal
my final destination, I'd simply give an
en-route airport. If I felt bad about the
borderline deception, I'd stop at the en-
route airport.

DOUBLE TAKE
Pilot's talk of business triggers fighter escort
Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:50 AM

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- F-16s intercepted a small plane after officials
misinterpreted a phrase uttered by the pilot as his aircraft flew over
military airspace: hostile takeover.

The pilot was talking about business, the plane's owner said. But a
frantic air-traffic controller couldn't confirm that because the pilot
had turned off his radio, said Maj. Roger Yates of the Clay County
sheriff's office.

Within minutes, federal authorities scrambled the fighter jets to
intercept the plane Monday evening just outside of Oklahoma City. It was
escorted to the Clay County airport.

Once the plane was on the ground, more than a dozen armed federal agents
and tactical deputies surrounded it. Federal authorities, who
interviewed the pilot for two hours, said Tuesday that there was no
threat to anyone and no charges would be filed.

The plane's owner, Dr. Kenneth E. Mann, said the pilot was heading back
to Kansas City after leaving him in Oklahoma, where Mann is a visiting
physician at several hospitals. Neither he nor authorities would
identify the pilot.

Authorities said the pilot was flying over Vance Air Force Base in Oklahoma.

When asked what his destination was, the pilot said he preferred not to
say because competitors could use such information to steal clients.
Mann said the pilot was concerned because he works "in a hostile
business environment."

"Mistakes happen," Mann said, "and in the times we live in after 9/11,
it's better to overreact than not react at all."

The worst thing you could say is: I am a friend of Anthony Atkielski, aka
MXSMANIC.

"Viperdoc" wrote in message
news
The worst thing you could say is: I am a friend of Anthony Atkielski, aka
MXSMANIC.

That would not cause any action against you. You'd simply be disregarded as
a pranker, because everyone knows he HAS no friends!
Crash Lander
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http://straightandlevel1973.spaces.live.com/
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong!

john smith wrote:
Last month a Hollywood producer was detained for several hours for
honestly answering a TSA screeners question as to his purpose for
visiting. The answer to the question: "I'm here to shoot a pilot."

Yet another overblown internet legend:

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/31..._that_tsa.html

And if you run into a friend named Jack at the airport, don't yell out "Hi
Jack!"

mike

"john smith" wrote in message
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Last month a Hollywood producer was detained for several hours for
honestly answering a TSA screeners question as to his purpose for
visiting. The answer to the question: "I'm here to shoot a pilot."

Yesterday, a single engine GA pilot was intercepted, forced to land and
was greeted by 20 federal agents. As he was overflying a military base, he
was communicating with the controllers. When queried as to his
destination, he responded that he could not disclose that information
because he was employed in a hostile work environment and that disclosing
the location could give his employers competition a business advantage. It
seems the controller only heard the word "hostile" and immediately
notified the security apparatus.

Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.

On 2007-06-15 12:28:56 -0700, "mike regish" said:

And if you run into a friend named Jack at the airport, don't yell out "Hi
Jack!"

The little orange starfish that used to be the logo of Cingular was
informally called "Jack" by employees of that company. He looked like a
jack, aye? Trouble was, the temptation when you turned your phone on at
the airport was to say "Hi, Jack."

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor