RIP Edward Teller

From: ost (Chris Mark)
snip

The US has conducted more nuclear tests than any other country, 300 or so
more
than the (f)SU. A table listing totals by year and country is at:

http://www.nrdc.org/nuclear/nudb/datab15.asp

I was surprised to see how many nukes the French have fired off, more than
double the total of the Brits and Chinese combined.


Chris Mark

Interesting chart, but one above ground test is omitted. A satellite detected a
South African test back when they had a program. For the life of me I can't
recall where I read about it.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

(B2431) wrote:

From: ost (Chris Mark)

http://www.nrdc.org/nuclear/nudb/datab15.asp

Interesting chart, but one above ground test is omitted. A satellite
detected a South African test back when they had a program. For the
life of me I can't recall where I read about it.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Safrica/Vela.html

The overall site is much more fascinating:

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/

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(B2431) writes:

http://www.nrdc.org/nuclear/nudb/datab15.asp

....
Interesting chart, but one above ground test is omitted. A satellite detected a
South African test back when they had a program. For the life of me I can't
recall where I read about it.

That one may or may not have existed. There was some evidence it was a joint
South African/Israeli project, and other evidence the bird was just seeing
lightning.

I've read nothing new on it in years.

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Subject: RIP Edward Teller
From: (B2431)
Date: 9/13/03 12:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

I am sure you know many U. S. servicemen and a few civilians near atmospheric
tests radiation poisoning and various cancers. Many of the affected have
since
died.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired


But that was joint operation of the US Government and the atomic energy
commision. You can't blame Teller for that.


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On 13 Sep 2003 07:34:39 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

From: nt (Gordon)
Date: 9/12/2003 11:26 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

How many people did Teller kill, as opposed to say, Idi Amin or Stalin?


Gordon

I am sure you know many U. S. servicemen and a few civilians near atmospheric
tests radiation poisoning and various cancers. Many of the affected have since
died.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, since they would be at least 70 years old by now, I suppose a
lot of them have died.

Al Minyard

fallout from thermonuclear testing is all we need to say .. the deadly
cancer after effect has killed many more people then hitler stalin etc
and other ever did in the world

Gordon wrote:

How many people did Teller kill, as opposed to say, Idi Amin or Stalin?

Gordon

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Gordon wrote:

How many people did Teller kill, as opposed to say, Idi Amin or Stalin?

Gordon

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"Aerophotos" wrote in message
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fallout from thermonuclear testing is all we need to say .. the deadly
cancer after effect has killed many more people then hitler stalin etc
and other ever did in the world



.....and let's not get started on that *******, Henry Ford.





Cheers


Dave Kearton

hint for you keato

everything we uses kills us.. even the APCs you drove in the late 70s...

but unfortunately the nuclear weapons can eliminate everything in a
instant...like american cities...

pity the us decided to invent the weapon... i still prefer the ole shoot
outs of the pre nuke days..

like in that us invaded ****ry called iraq where americans are dying in
their hundreds still.. absolute cracker i think.. fools volunteer so
their CinC can have arabs kill them yet the Cinc is a war dodger himself
... sets a great precident hey

i really wonder if the us was bluffing in the cold war.. they wouldnt
of survived a nuclear war, let alone conventional...they are shown
everytime since vietnam that they cant hold their own ground, they
require world assistance.. so much for fighting the european meance...

check six









Dave Kearton wrote:

Gordon wrote:

How many people did Teller kill, as opposed to say, Idi Amin or Stalin?

Gordon

--
"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
fallout from thermonuclear testing is all we need to say .. the deadly
cancer after effect has killed many more people then hitler stalin etc
and other ever did in the world


....and let's not get started on that *******, Henry Ford.

Cheers

Dave Kearton

"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
hint for you keato

everything we uses kills us.. even the APCs you drove in the late 70s...



Hmmm there's a problem there. I used a toaster this morning, will
that kill me or will it be the APC that I drove in the '70s ?


....and the TV has been looking at me strangely .....


.....and I've never really trusted that hairdryer, it's the wife's.



but unfortunately the nuclear weapons can eliminate everything in a
instant...like american cities...




Can, but so far haven't. They've also prevented smaller wars from
escalating to the global, conventional conflicts that you seem to prefer.




pity the us decided to invent the weapon... i still prefer the ole shoot
outs of the pre nuke days..




Yes, weren't they fun ?




like in that us invaded ****ry called iraq where americans are dying in
their hundreds still.. absolute cracker i think.. fools volunteer so
their CinC can have arabs kill them yet the Cinc is a war dodger himself
.. sets a great precident hey





....but Jolly, Iraqis were dying in their thousands before, maybe with a
little co-operation we can bring peace and security, not only to Iraq but
to the whole Middle East. That doesn't mean invading every country
there, maybe only the ONES THAT HAVE IGNORED 12 YEARS OF SANCTIONS.




i really wonder if the us was bluffing in the cold war.. they wouldnt
of survived a nuclear war, let alone conventional...they are shown
everytime since vietnam that they cant hold their own ground, they
require world assistance.. so much for fighting the european meance...



Nobody would have survived a nuclear war, what's new there ?



The European menace ? Who are they ?

Last time I saw, Europe and the US were allies.






check six



Personalities ?




Cheers


Dave Kearton












Dave Kearton wrote:

Gordon wrote:

How many people did Teller kill, as opposed to say, Idi Amin or
Stalin?

Gordon

--
"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
fallout from thermonuclear testing is all we need to say .. the deadly
cancer after effect has killed many more people then hitler stalin etc
and other ever did in the world


....and let's not get started on that *******, Henry Ford.

Cheers

Dave Kearton

Subject: RIP Edward Teller
From: Aerophotos
Date: 9/13/2003 3:35 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

snip

pity the us decided to invent the weapon... i still prefer the ole shoot
outs of the pre nuke days..

The Soviets were going to make nukes regardless of whether anyone else has.
Their spies in the Manhatten Project just speeded their project a few years.
Instead of rebuilding after WW2 Stalin let his people continue to suffer and
spent money much needed buy the people on his atomic and missile programs. At
the time the U.S. detonated the first H-bomb the Soviets were well on their way
to building theirs.

Would you feel any better if they or the French had built them first?

like in that us invaded ****ry called iraq where americans are dying in
their hundreds still.. absolute cracker i think.. fools volunteer so
their CinC can have arabs kill them yet the Cinc is a war dodger himself
.. sets a great precident hey

Bush didn't duck the draft, he volunteered and went into the Air National Guard
which IS military.

i really wonder if the us was bluffing in the cold war.. they wouldnt
of survived a nuclear war, let alone conventional...they are shown
everytime since vietnam that they cant hold their own ground, they
require world assistance.. so much for fighting the european meance...

check six


Check your own back yard. Go look at the nuke holes and crater glass.

Now about your geography lessons, the Soviet Union was Asian, not European. The
East European members of the Warsaw Pact were simply a buffer zone.

Dan, U. S. Air Force