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Old June 29th 07, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Isaksen
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"David Lesher" wrote
Some lines actually used spheres between, but they bring their own
problems...


A little further OT,... I've watched a lot of heavy #6 (needs to be heated
to pump) unloaded at the offshore platform. When the tanker is empty, we pig
the pipe and backfill with #2. The methods seem crude to the observer, but
the results are exact enough even for the accountants.


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Old June 29th 07, 10:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mike Isaksen" wrote

A little further OT,... I've watched a lot of heavy #6 (needs to be heated
to pump) unloaded at the offshore platform. When the tanker is empty, we
pig the pipe and backfill with #2. The methods seem crude to the observer,
but the results are exact enough even for the accountants.


Care to explain a little more, for the unfamiliar among us?

Pig the pipe?

Backfill with #2? What is that?

Why is it possible to be considered as crude, and why is it accurate?
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Old June 30th 07, 02:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
David Lesher
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"Morgans" writes:


"Mike Isaksen" wrote

A little further OT,... I've watched a lot of heavy #6 (needs to be heated
to pump) unloaded at the offshore platform. When the tanker is empty, we
pig the pipe and backfill with #2. The methods seem crude to the observer,
but the results are exact enough even for the accountants.


Care to explain a little more, for the unfamiliar among us?


Pig the pipe?


Backfill with #2? What is that?



#6 Bunker is one step up from road tar. It's what's left over when you
take all the good stuph out at the refinery.

It's CHEAP, so BIG ships burned it. But it is virually solid when
cold. So first it must be heated to pump. Remember WWII movies about
"bringing another boiler on line"? They used handheld Kerosene torches
to bootstrap the process; then waste steam from the boiler..

#2 is Fuel Oil; slight heavier than #1 aka Kerosene. (Diesel is #2
with added goodies.) If they left #6 in the line, they'd be SOL
as it cooled. So they use thinner stuff to displace it.

A pig is a scraper. You run it down a line to scrape gunk off the
walls. It's pushed by the line flow. There are several types: A poly pig
is a GIANT Tylonol capsule. A conventional pig is a disk [picture an old
LP..] the ID of the line, with a gasket around the edge. The center hole
has a shaft trailing back with wire brushes articulated from it; they're
spring-loaded outward to scrape the wall.

You pig the line while pushing Kero or Fuel Oil; the dirt settles into
the destination tank bottom...

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Old July 6th 07, 12:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dana M. Hague
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:52:36 -0400, Jose
wrote:

The operator told it how many gallons of what to go
where. Different mixes and fuels were sent through the same pipeline
with no one on the other end to either make the switch or to monitor
it.


Is there no diffusion at the boundaries?


I was once told that (for gasoline pipelines at least) it was the
usual practice to put some low grade "slug" gasoline between runs for
different merchants. The slug gas (with a bit of the mixture from
either end) was then sold to the cheap "no name" gas stations.

-Dana
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Old June 28th 07, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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He may cut early. middle or late; it depends on the two products. The
schedulers try to make adjacent 'tenders' friendly.


Interesting post. Thanks Dave

Paul
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