Bad Engrish?

Shirl,

The question couldn't GET any more basic than that, and even after
asking four times, the guy *did not understand* that it was a
*question*, NOT a clearance.


Missed that one. Again, there are NO questions asked by changing
inflection in standard phraseology. The proper way would have been
"confirm you have been cleared..." or something like that.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Shirl:
The question couldn't GET any more basic than that, and even after
asking four times, the guy *did not understand* that it was a
*question*, NOT a clearance.

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Missed that one. Again, there are NO questions asked by changing
inflection in standard phraseology. The proper way would have been
"confirm you have been cleared..." or something like that.

Yes, he could have, but he shouldn't have to rephrase his questions just
to cater to someone who clearly *does not understand* English well
enough to answer a VERY basic question asked of him by an air traffic
controller. The controller is speaking plain, clear English; the pilot
didn't understand him. It's ultimately the controller's responsibility
to handle it, but that doesn't absolve the pilot from the requirement
that he *understands* English.

Thomas Borchert writes:

Missed that one. Again, there are NO questions asked by changing
inflection in standard phraseology. The proper way would have been
"confirm you have been cleared..." or something like that.

The pilot still would not have understood, because he could not speak English.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Thomas Borchert writes:

Missed that one. Again, there are NO questions asked by changing
inflection in standard phraseology. The proper way would have been
"confirm you have been cleared..." or something like that.

The pilot still would not have understood, because he could not speak
English.


Lots of French pilots, German pilots, Italian Pilots andeven english
pilots, don't speak english..

And they are safe and allowed to fly.

(well, except the english ones)



Hmmm.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Thomas Borchert writes:

And, just like pilots, they should use standard phraseology! (Hint:
Neither "with you" nor "out of thirtyfivehundred" is)

Standard phraseology would not have helped here. The Chinese pilot
was simply incompetent in English.



Nope, worng agian, asshole


Bertie