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Maybe it was the FBO itself trying to earn another buck.
Lou |
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On Jul 1, 3:53 am, James Robinson wrote:
You sure the FBO didn't simply mix up the N number in their records, and are chasing the wrong person as a result? I fervently hope some such thing is the case; that would be easier to clear up than outright ID theft. As I said, the FBO's higher-ups haven't been heard from yet -- maybe Monday. |
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On 2007-06-30 20:26:11 -0700, quietguy said:
His use of jet fuel is one thing that will save me from having to pay for his travels. If he'd bought 100LL I might very well have been stuck for the tab; the FBO might have argued that I'd used the not-yet-airborne tail-number to bolster a fraudulent claim of identity theft after actually fueling a flyable aircraft. Pure nonsense. Federal laws limit your liability with stolen cards and you have no liability at all for a fraudulent card. Peter cannot collude with Paul to sell Paul 100 gallons of avgas (or anything else) and make you pay for it. This is a fundamental point of common law -- a third party cannot be bound by a contract between two other parties. If the FBO pursued its claim against you, you would be able to sue them for defamation, claim damages for fraud, and possibly press criminal charges for conspiracy to defraud you. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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On Jul 1, 10:17 am, C J Campbell
wrote: Pure nonsense. Federal laws limit your liability with stolen cards and you have no liability at all for a fraudulent card. Correct -- as I've since found out. I'm learning more by the minute about ID theft and its repercussions. |
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I'm also confused by this. If the thief paid by credit card at a self-serve
pump, the FBO will get paid by the credit card company, no matter what. I could understand the credit card company coming after you to pay, but that doesn't sound like the case here. I'm with the other poster who guessed that it's a billing error by the FBO and will be resolved on Monday. Good Luck, Dennis |
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On Jul 1, 12:37 pm, "Dennis Johnson" wrote:
I'm also confused by this. If the thief paid by credit card at a self-serve pump, the FBO will get paid by the credit card company, no matter what. I could understand the credit card company coming after you to pay, but that doesn't sound like the case here. I'm with the other poster who guessed that it's a billing error by the FBO and will be resolved on Monday. Good Luck, Dennis Thanks for the kind wishes. This thing is really chapping my ass. I'm a retired Air Force officer -- for twenty years my reputation meant more to me than my life, and now I'm finding out that it still may. I didn't sleep much last night. There may not be a credit card company: crime rings manufacture pretty good plastic blanks, complete with holograms, and they'll emboss and encode them to your specs at, I'm told, a surprisingly low price -- especially if you're a high-volume customer. A gas-pump is a perfect place to use such a fake. I hope to God that this is just some innocent data-entry error. More later. |
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![]() "quietguy" wrote There may not be a credit card company: crime rings manufacture pretty good plastic blanks, complete with holograms, and they'll emboss and encode them to your specs at, I'm told, a surprisingly low price -- especially if you're a high-volume customer. A gas-pump is a perfect place to use such a fake. My sister just had a Mastercard refused, and when she called to check about it, they told her that they had frozen the account, because someone had just tried to scan it to withdraw money twice, in Saudi Arabia. She has no idea where they got her information, to counterfit a card. It does happen, though. I hope to God that this is just some innocent data-entry error. More later. Good luck, and I have confidence that it will turn out OK, but it will undoubtedly will take some time to get straightened out. -- Jim in NC |
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It may not have been the FAA- I had a call from a credit card company
regarding some fraudulent charges, and they called the same day! Some guy bought some stuff in a Walmart in Chicago. So, it can happen- without reading the whole thread, did you call your credit card company and dispute the charges? |
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quietguy wrote:
On Jul 1, 12:37 pm, "Dennis Johnson" wrote: I'm also confused by this. If the thief paid by credit card at a self-serve pump, the FBO will get paid by the credit card company, no matter what. I could understand the credit card company coming after you to pay, but that doesn't sound like the case here. I'm with the other poster who guessed that it's a billing error by the FBO and will be resolved on Monday. Good Luck, Dennis Thanks for the kind wishes. This thing is really chapping my ass. I'm a retired Air Force officer -- for twenty years my reputation meant more to me than my life, and now I'm finding out that it still may. I didn't sleep much last night. There may not be a credit card company: crime rings manufacture pretty good plastic blanks, complete with holograms, and they'll emboss and encode them to your specs at, I'm told, a surprisingly low price -- especially if you're a high-volume customer. A gas-pump is a perfect place to use such a fake. I hope to God that this is just some innocent data-entry error. More later. I believe the issue can be resolved with minimal expense and trouble. So far, you have not been a victim of ID theft. You may have been a victim of credit card fraud. If the FBO verifies that a card of yours was used, just call the 800 number on the back of the card, explain the situation and they will cancel it and send another one immediately. Over the past 35 years, I've had to do this twice. No big deal, minimal hassle. If the FBO can't verify your credit card was used, write a letter explaining why it wasn't you, and send it Fedex Letter to the FBO owner. Keep a copy and then forget about it. |
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![]() "Dennis Johnson" wrote in message . .. I'm also confused by this. If the thief paid by credit card at a self-serve pump, the FBO will get paid by the credit card company, no matter what. I could understand the credit card company coming after you to pay, but that doesn't sound like the case here. I'm with the other poster who guessed that it's a billing error by the FBO and will be resolved on Monday. Why would the FBO bill for something paid by CC (could happen, just not very likely), as I believe that violates the rules that VISA, MC, AE, and the rest, put down. |
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