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ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA



 
 
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Old July 1st 07, 08:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
El Maximo
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"El Maximo" wrote in message
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"quietguy" wrote in message
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I've just received a "past due" invoice for the purchase of 250
gallons of Jet A from an FBO a thousand miles away on 20 May. The
invoice includes my name and address and the N-number of my airplane.
The trouble is: I'm not a jet pilot; haven't been to that city in
thirty years; the airplane with that N-number is still a-building in
my garage and it won't burn kerosene when it flies, anyway.


A few years ago, I fueled up at an airport and gave them my Discover Card
(1% cash back). They didn't have a machine there, so they took an
imprint. A few weeks later, I got a bill from them with a note saying
they don't take Discover. They had written the tail number on the slip,
so they knew where to mail the bill.

My guess is something similar happened here, but they got the tail number
wrong.

Still makes no sense if it was a CC sale.

He already said that all the facts aren't in. In my case, it was a credit
card transaction, but I got a bill from the FBO, because the CC didn't go
through.

It may have been a CC sale, but did the FBO say the CC was in his name? If
so, who said it? A clerk who could do nothing about it?

I still think the CC (in someone else's name) was declined, and the bill was
simply mailed to the owner of the plane - but they mixed up the N-number.


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Old July 1st 07, 08:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA


"El Maximo" wrote in message
...
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"El Maximo" wrote in message
news
"quietguy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've just received a "past due" invoice for the purchase of 250
gallons of Jet A from an FBO a thousand miles away on 20 May. The
invoice includes my name and address and the N-number of my airplane.
The trouble is: I'm not a jet pilot; haven't been to that city in
thirty years; the airplane with that N-number is still a-building in
my garage and it won't burn kerosene when it flies, anyway.

A few years ago, I fueled up at an airport and gave them my Discover
Card (1% cash back). They didn't have a machine there, so they took an
imprint. A few weeks later, I got a bill from them with a note saying
they don't take Discover. They had written the tail number on the slip,
so they knew where to mail the bill.

My guess is something similar happened here, but they got the tail
number wrong.

Still makes no sense if it was a CC sale.

He already said that all the facts aren't in. In my case, it was a credit
card transaction, but I got a bill from the FBO, because the CC didn't go
through.


If the CC didn't go through, you would not have gotten any gas (or whateve
else).


It may have been a CC sale, but did the FBO say the CC was in his name? If
so, who said it? A clerk who could do nothing about it?


IIRC the OP, it was a CC swipe sale...not a face-to-face sale. In that case
the FBO would not know who to send a bill to, and/or he would not have been
able to get gas from the pump.

I still think the CC (in someone else's name) was declined, and the bill
was simply mailed to the owner of the plane - but they mixed up the
N-number.


Again, if the CC was declined, he would not have gotten gas.

AIS, this whole thing is fishy. (Please, no fish puns :~) )


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Old July 1st 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

quietguy wrote:
I've just received a "past due" invoice for the purchase of 250
gallons of Jet A from an FBO a thousand miles away on 20 May. The
invoice includes my name and address and the N-number of my airplane.
The trouble is: I'm not a jet pilot; haven't been to that city in
thirty years; the airplane with that N-number is still a-building in
my garage and it won't burn kerosene when it flies, anyway.


The airplane database is public knowledge. Use a corporation if
you want anonymity.

The pilot database on the other hand is supposedly protected by
the privacy act. However, the FAA has been in substantial violation
of federal law by now letting people FULLY opt out of the thing and
by putting information (medical certification) on there that they
were never authorized to do.

I'm within a few months of starting a federal lawsuit on this one.
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Old July 6th 07, 03:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Taylor Hughes
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

Ron Natalie wrote:

quietguy wrote:
I've just received a "past due" invoice for the purchase of 250
gallons of Jet A from an FBO a thousand miles away on 20 May. The
invoice includes my name and address and the N-number of my airplane.
The trouble is: I'm not a jet pilot; haven't been to that city in
thirty years; the airplane with that N-number is still a-building in
my garage and it won't burn kerosene when it flies, anyway.


The airplane database is public knowledge. Use a corporation if
you want anonymity.


States allow the public to find the registered owners of corporations (or
members of LLC). Some states make this really easy to do online.

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Old July 6th 07, 03:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

Taylor Hughes wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote:
The airplane database is public knowledge. Use a corporation if
you want anonymity.


States allow the public to find the registered owners of corporations (or
members of LLC). Some states make this really easy to do online.


Wyoming is allegedly one of the best to incorporate when it comes to
privacy. Stockholders are not revealed to the state:

http://www.corporationstoday.com/compare.html#compare
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Old July 1st 07, 10:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul kgyy
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Default ID Theft -- Courtesy of the FAA

I think you're unnecessarily hyperventilating over this. My guess is
that someone either provided or copied a wrong tail number at the
FBO. When they discovered the bill hadn't been paid, they did what
FBOs usually do in this situation - look up the FAA info and send a
bill.

All you have to do is discuss it with them. I had a similar situation
a number of years ago and just wrote them back that my Tripacer would
have considerable difficulty carrying 75 gallons of fuel, and that I
had never in my life visited their facility.

 




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