A final yenc thought.

"Baldrick" wrote in message
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I can't post attachments in anything other than yEnc.


How come.

"Baldrick" wrote in message
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I can't post attachments in anything other than yEnc.
Its up to the Dinosaurs to evolve, not for the modern to devolve!!!
"I have a cunning plan"

Seems to me the rules state that posting should not be yNec on this news
group
But I have been wrong before, and will be again (soon).

So why not just start your own news group for yNec only posting and avoid
all the
insults ?

Regards
Reed

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ARROW Research - (CF-105 Avro Arrow)
Reed Park
916 Pre-d'en-haut Street
Memramcook, New Brunswick
Canada
E4K 1L1

(506)758-3128 - home
(506)874-9020 - cell

Amateur Radio Station VE1NU
Member of the W.S. #19 Group

GPS co-ordinates N 45 57.751 W 64 37.497

"Reed Park" wrote in message
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"Baldrick" wrote in message
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I can't post attachments in anything other than yEnc.
Its up to the Dinosaurs to evolve, not for the modern to devolve!!!
"I have a cunning plan"

Seems to me the rules state that posting should not be yNec on this news
group
But I have been wrong before, and will be again (soon).

So why not just start your own news group for yNec only posting and avoid
all the
insults ?

Regards
Reed

-----

ARROW Research - (CF-105 Avro Arrow)
Reed Park
916 Pre-d'en-haut Street
Memramcook, New Brunswick
Canada
E4K 1L1

(506)758-3128 - home
(506)874-9020 - cell

Amateur Radio Station VE1NU
Member of the W.S. #19 Group

GPS co-ordinates N 45 57.751 W 64 37.497

There are plenty of those already. They are called "porn groups."

"Reed Park" wrote in
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"Baldrick" wrote in message
...
I can't post attachments in anything other than yEnc.
Its up to the Dinosaurs to evolve, not for the modern to devolve!!!
"I have a cunning plan"

Seems to me the rules state that posting should not be yNec on this
news group
But I have been wrong before, and will be again (soon).

So why not just start your own news group for yNec only posting and
avoid all the
insults ?

Regards
Reed

-----

ARROW Research - (CF-105 Avro Arrow)
Reed Park
916 Pre-d'en-haut Street
Memramcook, New Brunswick
Canada
E4K 1L1

(506)758-3128 - home
(506)874-9020 - cell

Amateur Radio Station VE1NU
Member of the W.S. #19 Group

GPS co-ordinates N 45 57.751 W 64 37.497




does anyone have the url of the alledged rules
Or did some just appoint themselves thge arbitter of NG behavior without
regard to the will of any other poster,lurker or what have you here in

Clairbear,
As you have plonked me odds are good you won't be able to read this; however
on the off chance that someone should forward it to you...

There has never been any rules in the conventional form. However a few
years ago with the help of MANY others I compiled a guide for this NG. This
guide took the better part of three months to compile another month to
eventually vote on. During this process the lurkers where strongly
encouraged to step out of the shadows for the purpose it's suggestion
compilation and eventual vote. Many did so in both the NG and in a few
dozen E-mails sent to my self and various other participants. Quite a few
people voiced concerns, some with open aggression, some with very polite and
very strong counter arguments. However a great many others where openly
supportive of the idea of a guide, and so with what seemed like a 1000 plus
corrections and about 50 drafts later it came to a vote. Though I do not
remember how many voted, over all the participants of the group voted
overwhelming for it. On thing I should point out is that the entire process
was about as transparent as we could make it. Granted there may have been a
couple who cheated and voted more than once, however what we could do to
make the process transparent we did. One of the more interesting things
that came about from the guide was the number of lurkers who stepped out of
the shadows to pass comment and offer suggestions. Many of which where
incorporated into the guide...

For a couple of years the guide was mirrored on both my website, and
several others including translations in to French and German. Then about
two years ago for a number of personal reasons I had to basically slow down
and drop into the roll of lurker. At about this time I also dropped the
guide, however it did linger and stayed quite healthy for about another
year. These days though I am a participant in the group, I no longer have
the time, nor the desire to be involved with the guide. So if others should
decide to champion the cause they are more than welcome. However be warned
to any and all it is not for the faint at heart.

As for your situation...
Your sin has been your comments towards others, and the erratic on again,
off again hostility. Which is why you have found yourself on the defensive,
and also why so many people have flamed you. The really sad part is that
your behavior right up to and including that batch of images you posted has
been predicted. Because unfortunately I, and I am willing to bet a great
many others have seen it so many times before.

My best advise to you if you want to earn the respect of your colleagues in
the group is to lay low for a little while, and let the flames cool down...
Then out of no where post a WELL EDITED batch of your favorite aviation
images, not a huge batch just maybe 15 to 20 of the best you can do, and see
what happens. Then a few days or a week or two later do an encore. Quality
counts for a hell of lot in this newsgroup, and posters who post quality
images on a fairly regular basis gain points pretty quick. People who shout
a lot without anything behind them quickly lose points.

Clairbear please believe me when I say this I bare you no malice and I HAVE
NOT posted this for my benefit. Nor am I am attempting to be either
condescending or insulting. If you accept and listen to my suggestions
wonderful, if you do not then that is your choice. Because in the end it
really doesn't matter to me, however if you follow my advise and think about
what I have said, I think you may find things to be much easier for you.
The group is supposed to be fun, and not about hostility.

As a peace offering and as you seem to like skydivers, I have attached such
an image from my files,

Good Luck,


Andrew





"Clairbear" wrote in message
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"Reed Park" wrote in
:


"Baldrick" wrote in message
...
I can't post attachments in anything other than yEnc.
Its up to the Dinosaurs to evolve, not for the modern to devolve!!!
"I have a cunning plan"

Seems to me the rules state that posting should not be yNec on this
news group
But I have been wrong before, and will be again (soon).

So why not just start your own news group for yNec only posting and
avoid all the
insults ?

Regards
Reed

-----

ARROW Research - (CF-105 Avro Arrow)
Reed Park
916 Pre-d'en-haut Street
Memramcook, New Brunswick
Canada
E4K 1L1

(506)758-3128 - home
(506)874-9020 - cell

Amateur Radio Station VE1NU
Member of the W.S. #19 Group

GPS co-ordinates N 45 57.751 W 64 37.497




does anyone have the url of the alledged rules
Or did some just appoint themselves thge arbitter of NG behavior without
regard to the will of any other poster,lurker or what have you here in

Bob wrote in news:0dio93pf4bte5r0fs63rkf0oml46bdg3ru@
4ax.com:

http://www.aerophotointernational.com/guide.htm

The musing of one of the better poster in this Ng are a nice guide but as
he states it not the law, just a set of suggestions foe behavior. Those who
flame others for posting in yenc or as your insulting posts about my
posting and that of others are just as much in violation of these
guidelines as the yEnc posters. So maybe We should examine our behaviors
before attacking that of others.

Bob wrote in news:0dio93pf4bte5r0fs63rkf0oml46bdg3ru@
4ax.com:

http://www.aerophotointernational.com/guide.htm

Sor the previous post was not aimed at you but in part at those who try to
savage others. persons like russell, and Glen s Park
But I still feell that the guideline are more a suggestion than LAW

Again apologies for the misdirected words of mty earlier response I simply
misread the adress line in you post.

Bob wrote in
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:50:19 GMT, Clairbear wrote:

Bob wrote in
news:0dio93pf4bte5r0fs63rkf0oml46bdg3ru@ 4ax.com:

http://www.aerophotointernational.com/guide.htm

Sor the previous post was not aimed at you but in part at those who
try to savage others. persons like russell, and Glen s Park
But I still feell that the guideline are more a suggestion than LAW

There are no "LAWS" on Usenet. There are moderated newsgroups, but
that would be a total pain for someone or a small number of people to
look at every photo or comment before it was posted. The censorship
word and the free flow of information is no longer free but filtered.

There is something called Usenet etiquette though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette

Amateurs and professional photographers are nice enough to share their
photos with the internet world. "They" have decided that yenc is not
the way they want pictures posted. Photography is probably first and
foremost in their life so they figure KISS, keep it simple stupid, is
the way to go. Might not make sense to an outsider, but that is what
"they" prefer.

When yenc first appeared I was upset. Free Agent wouldn't handle them.
What is wrong with these stupid idiots! Then it became sort of a norm.
Now there are rar files. This is ridiculous. It was so much simpler
with Compuserve and Genie!


I am a professional Photgrapher and videographer Myself and I love all the
new tech and the options that they give I was one of the first to get the
new Adobe CS3 software and I use it everyday and as for this whole yenc
issue, if somewants to use to post fine, if not fine, but I can and will dl
yenc files if they are posted.
As I see it the biggest problem with yEnc is all the unnecessary flaming
that goes on over it's use. RAR and Zip files are fine for multiumedia
posts. Pics don't need to be compressed using them. As for the KISS
principle No-one(aside from Steve Jobs Or Bill Gates) ever said anything
with computers and digital technology would be simple.
My philosophy is poster should post as much "orginal" content as possible
and avoid needless repetes of tired old stuff unless by special request.

That being said Have anice day
Here one for you

"Clem" wrote:
I will not be adding anymore to this thread.
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No, you started another one an hour later.
So much for a "final thought".
Just when you got my hopes up.

Just trolling? Slow day huh?