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Old July 15th 07, 10:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Matt Whiting wrote:




It is hard to miss Cessna flaps either. I have to admit to wondering
where Kobra mind was during that landing. Full flaps in any Cessna I've
flown is simply hard to ignore, but I haven't flown a 177.


I owned one. You can't miss them if you happen to be in the aircraft
during a landing.
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Old July 15th 07, 10:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:


When you own an aircraft -- especially one with a big, heavy 6-
cylinder engine that is slightly nose-heavy -- you think twice before
"practicing" such things. Tires, struts, brakes, firewalls, props,
and engines all become HUGE impediments to "practicing" landings with
the stall horn squalling, since you're paying for them all.


That's really disappointing to hear. I didn't realize this attitude
even existed but this does explain some things I see. I have more fun
plunking my airplane down in small spots than just about anything else.
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Old July 16th 07, 08:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Newps,

That's really disappointing to hear. I didn't realize this attitude
even existed but this does explain some things I see. I have more fun
plunking my airplane down in small spots than just about anything else.


Me too. And I own it, too. It's not a smart attitude not to practice with
your own plane. But you're right, it does explain a lot of the "driving
on" of larger singles one sees.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old July 15th 07, 11:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:38:14 -0700, Jay Honeck
wrote:

Spend an hour or two landing on the numbers with the stall horn squalling.


It's funny how much easier this was to do when I was renting
airplanes. Heck, I'd routinely drag it in at minimum forward air
speed and plunk it on the numbers, just to see how short I could land.


This should be a part of every ones practice.

When you own an aircraft -- especially one with a big, heavy 6-
cylinder engine that is slightly nose-heavy -- you think twice before
"practicing" such things. Tires, struts, brakes, firewalls, props,


Nope, not even with a Beech retract. I'd probably do two (or more) of
these about every time I'd go out and practice. After about the
second one I'd find the "airport bums" (group I hang out with) hanging
on the fence, grading the landings.

and engines all become HUGE impediments to "practicing" landings with
the stall horn squalling, since you're paying for them all.


I bought 'em to use and I used them to lean both the limits of the
airplane and myself.


This post, IMHO, above all else, is a real tribute to the utility of
manual, Johnson-bar flap actuators. Hard to miss when THOSE don't
work.


When I add flaps I look at them. It's become a habit.
OTOH the Johnson bar flaps in the Cherokee 180 could make for a very
impressive, short roll out after a STEEP descent.


:-)

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Old July 16th 07, 02:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:

I bought 'em to use and I used them to learn both the limits of the
airplane and myself.


Yep.

The Skylane has a reputation as a great short field airplane: I'm enjoying
making mine live up to that reputation.

Life is for living; airplanes are for flying.


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Dan
T-182T at BFM


 




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