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Jim Stewart wrote: This brings up an interesting question. Do airlines generally cover personal claims against their employees? I would think that unless a crime was committed, they would. Either way, it doesn't matter--you still pay for it. I would agree that where there's negligence (as it appears there was in this case), individuals and companies should be held accountable. But who is really going to win in these lawsuits? Most likely, the lawyers win and you (a completely uninvolved individual) pay for it. JKG |
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In article , "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote: So, how much do you think YOU are goinf to save if the FO doesn't do what he needs to do to defend himself? What has the FO been charged with? ...defend himself from the possible civil claims against him. What it boils down to is which insurance company is going to pay what. It seems that if he's responsible, the claims against him are valid. He should accept responsibility and not try to shift blame onto someone else. Keep in mind that companies don't pay for anything, every dollar a company spends comes out of YOUR pocket. If his lawyers didn't do everything possible to shift at least some of the liability from their client they would be guilty of malpractice. And it isn't just the FO that is sueing it is the widow of the captain as well. And to say that companies don't pay for anything is silly. Comair for example doesn't operate in a vacume. They can't raise thier fares just because they get hit with a liability suit. If you continue your logic out, nothing comes out of your pocket either because you got your money from somewhere and so they are really footing the bill. |
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote: If his lawyers didn't do everything possible to shift at least some of the liability from their client they would be guilty of malpractice. And it isn't just the FO that is sueing it is the widow of the captain as well. So it's okay to lie, as long as it helps you out? Sounds like you're either advocating or validating the worst sterotype for lawyers. And to say that companies don't pay for anything is silly. Comair for example doesn't operate in a vacume. They can't raise thier fares just because they get hit with a liability suit. Yes, they can, and yes, they do. Companies do not have their own money; the only way companies get money is to accept what you give to them in exchange for products or services. A frivolous liability lawsuit does nothing but attempt to extort money from the deep pockets of the company (or insurance company), which is funded by the company's customers and investors, usually to the benefit of the lawyers. I'm all for holding negligent companies and individuals responsible under the legal system. However, attempting to shift blame to a runway lighting company or contractor who had absolutely ZERO honest liability in this situation, is entirely frivolous. The accident was caused by the mistakes of the flight crew, and inasmuch as that liability is shared, by the company that employed them. JKG |
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Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article , "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote: If his lawyers didn't do everything possible to shift at least some of the liability from their client they would be guilty of malpractice. And it isn't just the FO that is sueing it is the widow of the captain as well. So it's okay to lie, as long as it helps you out? Sounds like you're either advocating or validating the worst sterotype for lawyers. And to say that companies don't pay for anything is silly. Comair for example doesn't operate in a vacume. They can't raise thier fares just because they get hit with a liability suit. Yes, they can, and yes, they do. Companies do not have their own money; the only way companies get money is to accept what you give to them in exchange for products or services. A frivolous liability lawsuit does nothing but attempt to extort money from the deep pockets of the company (or insurance company), which is funded by the company's customers and investors, usually to the benefit of the lawyers. I'm all for holding negligent companies and individuals responsible under the legal system. However, attempting to shift blame to a runway lighting company or contractor who had absolutely ZERO honest liability in this situation, is entirely frivolous. The accident was caused by the mistakes of the flight crew, and inasmuch as that liability is shared, by the company that employed them. This is why we have a legal system to assign liability where it belongs. |
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On Aug 30, 9:25 am, Jonathan Goodish wrote:
I'm all for holding negligent companies and individuals responsible under the legal system. However, attempting to shift blame to a runway lighting company or contractor who had absolutely ZERO honest liability in this situation, is entirely frivolous. The accident was caused by the mistakes of the flight crew, and inasmuch as that liability is shared, by the company that employed them. While I am also convinced the flight crew was primarily at fault, I can't agree that the lighting company/contractor had "absolutely ZERO honest liability" in this situation. If you read the article, you would know that: On Aug. 25, 2006, the airport issued a notice to pilots that "numerous lights" on the main runway were out of service. That night, at 1:40 a.m. Aug. 26, Polehinke landed at Lexington on a flight from New York. The captain of that flight told the NTSB that only about an eighth of the edge lights on Runway 22 were lit. I don't think this is a huge stretch. If nearly 90% of the lights on 4/22 were out the night before, it would not seem strange that 100% of them were out the next morning. They were not primarily responsible, but I really doubt that they have "ZERO honest" liability. Not an excuse, but another link in the chain. Austin |
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![]() "Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message ... In article , "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote: If his lawyers didn't do everything possible to shift at least some of the liability from their client they would be guilty of malpractice. And it isn't just the FO that is sueing it is the widow of the captain as well. So it's okay to lie, as long as it helps you out? Sounds like you're either advocating or validating the worst sterotype for lawyers. And to say that companies don't pay for anything is silly. Comair for example doesn't operate in a vacume. They can't raise thier fares just because they get hit with a liability suit. Yes, they can, and yes, they do. Companies do not have their own money; the only way companies get money is to accept what you give to them in exchange for products or services. As Gig said, they don't operate in a vacuum -- they operate in an extremely COMPETITIVE market that has little leeway for mistakes. For a company operating on thin margins, such a hit may well prove fatal (no pun intended). It's the economic version of Darwin's law (not to mention Murphy's). -- Matt Barrow Performance Homes, LLC. Cheyenne, WY -- “Nonscientists generally do not want to bother with understanding the science. Claims of consensus relieve policy types, environmental advocates and politicians of any need to do so. Such claims also serve to intimidate the public and even scientists...there is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition.” - Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT, (6-26-06) |
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