My wife getting scared

Larry,

You have an ecxcellent point - and state it so nicely!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Such a bias toward comrades is not unique to Usenet.

I see the bias you mention as the result of at least two factors: a
result of Mr. Honeck's "contribution" to GA, contrasted against Mr.
Atkielski's maligning of GA (and indeed most other aspects of
non-artificial aviation). Couple that with the social bonding that
occurs among drinking buddies and EAA members, and it's easy to see
how Mr. Honeck's frequent lack of insight and subjective opinion in
lieu of empirical fact are overlooked and tolerated by a certain
segment of the readership of the rec.aviation.piloting newsgroup.

Sorry, Larry, but the truth is that your Usenet persona is that of a
humorless drone who would rather die than laugh at himself. To those
of us who find humor everywhere, especially within ourselves, this
personality trait is the funniest thing of all.

THAT is why you (and Borchert, and MX) find little support here --
because you take yourself too danged seriously.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:48:52 -0700, Jay Honeck
wrote in .com:

Such a bias toward comrades is not unique to Usenet.

I see the bias you mention as the result of at least two factors: a
result of Mr. Honeck's "contribution" to GA, contrasted against Mr.
Atkielski's maligning of GA (and indeed most other aspects of
non-artificial aviation). Couple that with the social bonding that
occurs among drinking buddies and EAA members, and it's easy to see
how Mr. Honeck's frequent lack of insight and subjective opinion in
lieu of empirical fact are overlooked and tolerated by a certain
segment of the readership of the rec.aviation.piloting newsgroup.

Sorry, Larry, but the truth is that your Usenet persona is that of a
humorless drone who would rather die than laugh at himself. To those
of us who find humor everywhere, especially within ourselves, this
personality trait is the funniest thing of all.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, but I haven't seen the
mention of humor in the newsgroup charter, have you?

THAT is why you (and Borchert, and MX) find little support here --
because you take yourself too danged seriously.

More groundless imaginings; that may be true in your little circle of
cronies, but as Bush is learning, there is a larger world beyond
cronyism.

In my opinion, it is the news, expertise, and information exchanged in
rec.aviation.piloting that is valuable, not the social prattle and ill
informed opinion. Should the newsgroup charter ever be amended to
value humor above information, you may see a change in my style.

Larry Dighera wrote:

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, but I haven't seen the
mention of humor in the newsgroup charter, have you?


Concerning ANYTHING even remotely associated with getting something
across flight safety wise (or even in normal dialog between people )
that will be remembered by the most people either reading or hearing it,
humor is the catalyst in the communication equation that will be most
effective.

--
Dudley Henriques

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, but I haven't seen the
mention of humor in the newsgroup charter, have you?

Concerning ANYTHING even remotely associated with getting something
across flight safety wise (or even in normal dialog between people )
that will be remembered by the most people either reading or hearing it,
humor is the catalyst in the communication equation that will be most
effective.

I don't know how you said that with a straight face, Dud...

;-)

The fact that this must be explained to Larry illustrates my point
better than anything. Thanks for making me smile this morning!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

("Larry Dighera" wrote)
More groundless imaginings; that may be true in your little circle of
cronies, but as Bush is learning, there is a larger world beyond cronyism.


A: I disagree. Jay has a pretty BIG circle ...of "cronies".

B: (OT) Bush (his administration) is going through (on par) what other two
term presidents have been through, in year 7. He is not unique in muddling
through to the end.

(revisited)
A: Jay's circle of "cronies". A possible explanation:

1. Jay runs a top notch (nationally known) aviation theme Hotel

2. He flies 3 days a week (sometimes more)

3. Former (Chairman?/President?) of his airport's very successful Big Kids'
Toys event

4. Raised money for an Aviation Wing at an Iowa Children's Museum

5. Represented GA + (flying) Families at the Smithsonian's National Air and
Space Museum (Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center) event

6. Is a mainstay at OSH - 25 years and counting

7. Was at the 2003 National Air Tour's (home field) celebration

8. Has flown to Sun-n-Fun

9. Has flown to Reno for the Air Races

10. Has participated in CAP with his son

11. Has flown numerous Young Eagles

12. Host's one of the most visited 'aviation video' sites on the web
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

13. Has hosted the Ninety-Nines at his hotel - more than once.

14. Won Best Cherokee(?) at the National Cherokee Fly-In

15. Is a member of Antique Airplane Association (National Fly-In,
Blakesberg)

16. Built the "Kiwi"
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm

17. Hosts FREE (aviation) Movie Night every Tuesday, at his hotel

18. Operates a Friends Of... mailing list for his local airport

19. Maintains detailed records ('minutes') of local airport meetings, for
his large IOW (supporters) network

20. Flew in for the National Stearman Fly-In (I was his guest G)

21. Has been featured in numerous national publications

22. Hosted the crew of the "Connie" at his hotel - got some right seat
time, too

23. Has hosted the rec.aviation (H.O.P.S.) party, 5 years running @ OSH
(By hosting, I mean.... oh nevermind. g)

24. Shares flying time with Mary, his co-pilot wife.

25. It's late, I'm tires - I know I've missed a bunch!


Paul Montgomery

In my opinion, it is the news, expertise, and information exchanged in
rec.aviation.piloting that is valuable, not the social prattle and ill
informed opinion. Should the newsgroup charter ever be amended to value
humor above information, you may see a change in my style.


Don't get me wrong, just because I may insinuate it's like ...ducks in a
barrel, doesn't mean we're not all looking forward to Larry's 'make-over'
into a comic swan.


Montblack
....and running g

Montblack,

A: Jay's circle of "cronies". A possible explanation:

...

Impressive. Seriously. But all that doesn't mean he's infallible or
couldn't be a jerk at times.


--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On Oct 7, 2:06 am, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote:
("Larry Dighera" wrote)

More groundless imaginings; that may be true in your little circle of
cronies, but as Bush is learning, there is a larger world beyond cronyism.

A: I disagree. Jay has a pretty BIG circle ...of "cronies".

B: (OT) Bush (his administration) is going through (on par) what other two
term presidents have been through, in year 7. He is not unique in muddling
through to the end.

(revisited)
A: Jay's circle of "cronies". A possible explanation:

Monty, I think you are missing the point. The cronieism LD is refering
to has to do with RAP and not his personal accomplishments . I am
always amazed at how these threads degrade into arguments that noone
will ever win. To get back to the gist of this discusion, I have
overhauled and repaired a few of these engines and I have read much of
the Lycoming factory material and from what I have seen and read the
biggest problem is the RATE of tempurature change in these engines
that causes the problem. With some planning and care you can go
practice approaches, pattern work, engine emergencies, etc, and
minimize the wear or damage to your engine. There is no doubt that
repeated approaches is harder on an engine than straight and level
cruise, but most pilots would sacrifice some engine wear to maintain
proficency (Wasnt that the gist of this ?)

Don't get me wrong, just because I may insinuate it's like ...ducks in a
barrel, doesn't mean we're not all looking forward to Larry's 'make-over'
into a comic swan.

Having a condisending day are we ?

Montblack
...and running g

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:22:14 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote in
:

Turns out, as Jay revealed so nicely, he himself is the problem.
What saddens me is that this "community" does nothing about it if it's our
oh-so-esteemed Brother Jay, but screams bloody murder when someone like MX does
it. Usenet, indeed...

Such a bias toward comrades is not unique to Usenet.

I see the bias you mention as the result of at least two factors: a
result of Mr. Honeck's "contribution" to GA, contrasted against Mr.
Atkielski's maligning of GA (and indeed most other aspects of
non-artificial aviation). Couple that with the social bonding that
occurs among drinking buddies and EAA members, and it's easy to see
how Mr. Honeck's frequent lack of insight and subjective opinion in
lieu of empirical fact are overlooked and tolerated by a certain
segment of the readership of the rec.aviation.piloting newsgroup.

Really? Must be my ISP is missing posts as what I've seen is running
almost unanimously contrary to Jay's opinion.

Matt

Matt Whiting writes:

Really? Must be my ISP is missing posts as what I've seen is running
almost unanimously contrary to Jay's opinion.

In other words, you disagree. The tyranny of viewpoints.