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Morgans wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote If you noticed, my posts are always directed to third parties dealing with this person. I actually don't post to him directly feeling no desire to do so. This style is my choice on how to deal with the situation. Yep. That is about what I have come down to, also. I think "the chad" character appeared, because a couple days ago, MX posts were getting mostly no responses, or only a couple responses. So we were on the way to successfully eliminating what a troll wants. Feedback. The chad pops up, and many (what I should have typed before, instead of "everyone") are biting, like carp sucking down fish heads. Sad, indeed. Come on people! Wise up, and ignore "the chad" and his ridiculous posts. Don't feed the obvious attempt at trolling. Apparently I don't take either the troll situation or the forum for that matter as seriously as some other people on the group. Personally I see no problem whatsoever in allowing troll posts to be handled as individuals see fit. The problem with actively attempting to control this issue by posting advice and lecturing people on what they should be doing to handle it is that before you know it, the "suggestion and lecture posts" become as much a problem or even more of a problem than the issue they are attempting to address. I personally try and avoid direct contact with those on Usenet I disaprove of for some reason. Trolls are a fact of life on Usenet. Trying to control a troll by trying to control how others deal with that troll is a fruitless venture destined to failure as in many cases the person attempting this control on the forum innocently becomes a troll themselves. DH -- Dudley Henriques |
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![]() "Dudley Henriques" wrote Trolls are a fact of life on Usenet. Trying to control a troll by trying to control how others deal with that troll is a fruitless venture destined to failure as in many cases the person attempting this control on the forum innocently becomes a troll themselves. It is on this premise where we part ways. I have no problem with ignoring the occasional hit and run troll, and ignoring the people that continue to enable him. When one comes and dominates the group for as long as this one has, and many people (good people) leave because of it, (and they have left this group in droves) something needs to be done. I may be tilting at windmills, but I've always been the type to be prone to do a little of that. I feel some people need encouragement to change their views on handling a troll, just as much as you feel the need to encourage people to change how they fly so they are safe. I may fail, or become a pain in the butt to some, but I have to try, or I would not be true to myself. I can live with trying and still failing, but can not live with not trying. Such it is in life. -- Jim in NC |
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Morgans wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote Trolls are a fact of life on Usenet. Trying to control a troll by trying to control how others deal with that troll is a fruitless venture destined to failure as in many cases the person attempting this control on the forum innocently becomes a troll themselves. It is on this premise where we part ways. I have no problem with ignoring the occasional hit and run troll, and ignoring the people that continue to enable him. When one comes and dominates the group for as long as this one has, and many people (good people) leave because of it, (and they have left this group in droves) something needs to be done. I may be tilting at windmills, but I've always been the type to be prone to do a little of that. I feel some people need encouragement to change their views on handling a troll, just as much as you feel the need to encourage people to change how they fly so they are safe. I may fail, or become a pain in the butt to some, but I have to try, or I would not be true to myself. I can live with trying and still failing, but can not live with not trying. Such it is in life. I think Dudley is correct, but I also believe that "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". However, on usenet, there really isn't much that can be done. I just killfile the pests and let the technology take care of it. :-) Matt |
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Morgans wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote Trolls are a fact of life on Usenet. Trying to control a troll by trying to control how others deal with that troll is a fruitless venture destined to failure as in many cases the person attempting this control on the forum innocently becomes a troll themselves. It is on this premise where we part ways. I have no problem with ignoring the occasional hit and run troll, and ignoring the people that continue to enable him. When one comes and dominates the group for as long as this one has, and many people (good people) leave because of it, (and they have left this group in droves) something needs to be done. I may be tilting at windmills, but I've always been the type to be prone to do a little of that. I feel some people need encouragement to change their views on handling a troll, just as much as you feel the need to encourage people to change how they fly so they are safe. I may fail, or become a pain in the butt to some, but I have to try, or I would not be true to myself. I can live with trying and still failing, but can not live with not trying. Such it is in life. No problem at all. Departure and/or diversity are what Usenet is all about. We'll meet again someday on some other issue I'm sure All the best. DH -- Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote: Trolls are a fact of life on Usenet. Trying to control a troll by trying to control how others deal with that troll is a fruitless venture destined to failure as in many cases the person attempting this control on the forum innocently becomes a troll themselves. Surrender plays into the troll's hands and thus is one of the worst ways to respond to a troll. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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![]() "Bob Noel" wrote Surrender plays into the troll's hands and thus is one of the worst ways to respond to a troll. I'm not sure I understand the point you are trying to make. What constitutes surrender, in your opinion? Are you saying ignoring a troll is to play into a troll's hands? -- Jim in NC |
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Bob Noel wrote:
In article , Dudley Henriques wrote: Trolls are a fact of life on Usenet. Trying to control a troll by trying to control how others deal with that troll is a fruitless venture destined to failure as in many cases the person attempting this control on the forum innocently becomes a troll themselves. Surrender plays into the troll's hands and thus is one of the worst ways to respond to a troll. I disagree. The goal of a troll is to suck you in to useless discourse. Ignoring them is what will frustrate them the most and most likely cause them to get bored and troll elsewhere. Matt |
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