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Why are so many Stemme S10-VT motorgliders for sale?



 
 
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Old November 15th 16, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Oh man, you're right! But in my defense, I read your reply to her and
we both got a chuckle. We enjoy every minute that we fly together but
about 25% of the total time, I fly alone.

On 11/14/2016 11:40 AM, Duster wrote:
......I've flown it 223
hours, taught my wife to fly it, and enjoyed her company on about
75% of the flights. ....snip.

....er....ah....Dan, I think you made a big faux pas that needs correction ASAP. I'm sure you meant to say, "I enjoyed her company 100% of the time. We fly together 75% of the time".

It's almost Christmas, what were you thinking?
Mike


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Old November 15th 16, 01:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Can't wait Dan! Thx!
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Old November 15th 16, 05:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The Stemme is unique among other gliders in several ways, and so are uniquely appealing! Here's how I enjoyed mine:

Stores in a regular T-hangar and able to operate out of even a busy tower controlled field. This allows a business person to leave the office early, get to the airport and unfold the wings, pre-flight, (this just takes minutes), taxi out on conventional retracting gear with wing clearance above signs and such, launch and go soar for a few hours. Ground handling is very good, four of us taxied out in a 35 knot wind, made 4 90 degree turns and launched pretty much vertically at the runway intersection (brag: I went first).. No other high performance glider I'm aware of could do that.

Turbo charged and intercooled, the Stemme can climb out of high and hot airports with no problem. Switching over to power involves little extra drag (a loss of maybe 12-15 L/D until the prop is turning). It handles turbulence with aplomb, soaking up the bumps better than any lighter glider I've flown.

I have a bit over 450 hours in the S10. I flew alongside a Stemme for about 15 miles with my ASH26E (50/1) both gliding straight line in fairly smooth air. He was slowly losing altitude on me the whole time, which was surprising, as I'd flown alongside Marty Hellman's S10 many times and running performance was quite similar. Discussing this on the radio with the other pilot (who shall go unnamed) Terry advised he'd forgotten to close his nose cone and thus his engine cooling vents were open too - for the extra drag, we still wasn't doing too bad, having lost only a few hundred feet on me as I recall :c)
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Old November 16th 16, 10:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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To give non-stemmers what it can do, this video is about a 500 km cross country done in 3.5 hours.
It is so well balanced while thermaling you don't have to be looking at Bumper's yaw string all the time.

Sorry is not in english!

https://youtu.be/KX1B11M_9ZE
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Old November 15th 16, 04:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Bring it, Sean. I'll be happy to show our next World Champion the
luxury of the Stemme!

On 11/14/2016 6:15 PM, Sean wrote:
Can't wait Dan! Thx!


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Old November 16th 16, 09:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Dan,

Prices for second-hand S10's range from 75.000 euros to over 200.000 dollars.
I'm wondering what might explain the large differences between such prices?

regards,

Roel
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Old November 14th 16, 04:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:43:58 -0800, Sean wrote:

At the end of they day, if I lived out west, and just wanted to play
glider pilot once in awhile and take friends for rides with ease, the
Stemme is still the coolest motor glider on earth.

.... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared Everest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnNWnlLuT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxlbxdYTPZE


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Old November 18th 16, 01:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, 14 November 2016 09:13:55 UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:43:58 -0800, Sean wrote:

At the end of they day, if I lived out west, and just wanted to play
glider pilot once in awhile and take friends for rides with ease, the
Stemme is still the coolest motor glider on earth.

... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared Everest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnNWnlLuT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxlbxdYTPZE


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"... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared Everest"

Not true. This guy did it first and in a hang glider no less.

Angelo d’Arrigo.
http://www.vagabondish.com/worlds-fi...mount-everest/

http://www.angelodarrigo.com/Over_Everest_en.php
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Old November 18th 16, 11:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 17:45:35 -0800, srathbunr5 wrote:

On Monday, 14 November 2016 09:13:55 UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:43:58 -0800, Sean wrote:

At the end of they day, if I lived out west, and just wanted to play
glider pilot once in awhile and take friends for rides with ease, the
Stemme is still the coolest motor glider on earth.

... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared
Everest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnNWnlLuT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxlbxdYTPZE


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"... and I'm fairly sure its still the only aircraft to have soared
Everest"

Not true. This guy did it first and in a hang glider no less.

Angelo d’Arrigo.
http://www.vagabondish.com/worlds-fi...mount-everest/

According to the comments in this reference and an article in Wikipedia
he was actually towed up and glided over Everest. The tow pilot (Richard
Meredith-Hay) confirms this: "Despite some very marginal weather
conditions and some last minute technical glitches the hang glider was
towed to a point very close to the summit. The microlight pilot exchanged
waves with a group of climbers who were standing on the summit as he flew
over Everest!".

Thats an interesting and skilful flight, but it isn't "soaring Everest",
which means climbing up and above the mountain without using an engine,
as Klaus Ohlman did and is shown in the videos I referenced.

http://www.angelodarrigo.com/Over_Everest_en.php

Angelo was not the first man to fly over Everest as this link claims:
that was done by Lord Clydesdale and Stewart Blacker in 1933, flying a
modified Westland PV-3 and accompanied by two other pilots in a Westland
PV-5.


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Old November 18th 16, 01:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Soaring Everest. Time to get picky with definitions.
http://www.xcmag.com/2013/05/60-year...-highest-peak/
 




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