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Old November 1st 07, 10:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Frank Ch. Eigler
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Newps writes:

[...] Once the spacing has been established GPS is irrelevant in
maintaining it. The minimum spacing can not be reduced from what it
is now unless aircraft can be designed to be unaffected by wake
turbulence. [...]


Does that not just affect in-trail separation?

- FChE
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Old October 31st 07, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Gig 601XL Builder
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Default CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA

John Kulp wrote:


Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are all
advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it build.
So just what do you know that those running the business don't?


Of course they are saying that. They want GA to pay more and if they
admitted the problems were caused by their own scheduling then they wouldn't
be able to reduce the amount they pay into the system.


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Old October 31st 07, 06:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
John Kulp
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:09:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are all
advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it build.
So just what do you know that those running the business don't?


Of course they are saying that. They want GA to pay more and if they
admitted the problems were caused by their own scheduling then they wouldn't
be able to reduce the amount they pay into the system.



Which is completely irrelevant to upgrading the ATC system which is a
GOVERNMENT function for which money as long since been stolen by the
politicos as I said earlier, which, according to estimates, would
increase the capacity by about 25%.
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Old October 31st 07, 07:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Gig 601XL Builder
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Default CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA

John Kulp wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:09:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are all
advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it build.
So just what do you know that those running the business don't?


Of course they are saying that. They want GA to pay more and if they
admitted the problems were caused by their own scheduling then they
wouldn't be able to reduce the amount they pay into the system.



Which is completely irrelevant to upgrading the ATC system which is a
GOVERNMENT function for which money as long since been stolen by the
politicos as I said earlier, which, according to estimates, would
increase the capacity by about 25%.



The GPS sats are up there, the aircraft have the GPS receivers in them. What
exactly do you think the FAA is going to have to build?


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Old October 31st 07, 07:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
John Kulp
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Default CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:17:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:09:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are all
advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it build.
So just what do you know that those running the business don't?

Of course they are saying that. They want GA to pay more and if they
admitted the problems were caused by their own scheduling then they
wouldn't be able to reduce the amount they pay into the system.



Which is completely irrelevant to upgrading the ATC system which is a
GOVERNMENT function for which money as long since been stolen by the
politicos as I said earlier, which, according to estimates, would
increase the capacity by about 25%.



The GPS sats are up there, the aircraft have the GPS receivers in them. What
exactly do you think the FAA is going to have to build?



It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa
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Old October 31st 07, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA

(John Kulp) wrote in
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:17:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:09:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are
all advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it
build. So just what do you know that those running the business
don't?

Of course they are saying that. They want GA to pay more and if
they admitted the problems were caused by their own scheduling then
they wouldn't be able to reduce the amount they pay into the
system.



Which is completely irrelevant to upgrading the ATC system which is
a GOVERNMENT function for which money as long since been stolen by
the politicos as I said earlier, which, according to estimates,
would increase the capacity by about 25%.



The GPS sats are up there, the aircraft have the GPS receivers in
them. What exactly do you think the FAA is going to have to build?



It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa


You're an idiot, lean to read, fjukktard.



Bertie


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Old November 1st 07, 12:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Marty Shapiro
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
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Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or Kulp? Both
seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the
history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no longer
mention a good run for the money.

I think Mxs will probably retain the title, but Kulp is sure closing
the distance between them

A picture of Kulp studying wake turbulance and operational speparation
with GPS can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2o8f6h

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)
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Old November 1st 07, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Gig 601XL Builder
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Default CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA

John Kulp wrote:


It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa



If you are going to quote Wired (our slogan: If it sounds like new
technology we will hype it) as a source of aviation technology I'm tapping
out.


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Old November 1st 07, 04:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
John Kulp
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Default CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA

On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:09:16 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa



If you are going to quote Wired (our slogan: If it sounds like new
technology we will hype it) as a source of aviation technology I'm tapping
out.



Feel free. Do a google search yourself and you will find plenty. This
is just one I came across.
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Old October 31st 07, 09:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Morgans[_2_]
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"John Kulp" wrote

Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are all
advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it build.
So just what do you know that those running the business don't?


He IS in the business, ATC, to be exact. I would make book on what he says
on this subject.
--
Jim in NC


 




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