RIP Cessna...Skycatcher

We are giving our country away and elevating a communist super power with
some of the largest human rights abuse issues in the world. They're taking
our money and making missiles, aircraft and guns to sell to our enemies
while they tolerate software, music and movie piracy. If you dissent you
disappear.


So.... basically all the corporate executives who are making these
decisions to outsource to China are in a sense committing a long,
slow, drawn-out act of treason in return for profit, eh?

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So.... basically all the corporate executives who are making these
decisions to outsource to China are in a sense committing a long,
slow, drawn-out act of treason in return for profit, eh?

In a word, yes.

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So.... basically all the corporate executives who are making these
decisions to outsource to China are in a sense committing a long,
slow, drawn-out act of treason in return for profit, eh?

Well, I'd say that commission has been happening for awhile.

China has some of the worst human rights records in the world. Hey, let's
all empower China. With a track record like that, they NEED to be a rival
superpower.

-c

On 2007-11-29 08:39:46 -0800, said:

We are giving our country away and elevating a communist super power with
some of the largest human rights abuse issues in the world. They're taking
our money and making missiles, aircraft and guns to sell to our enemies
while they tolerate software, music and movie piracy. If you dissent you
disappear.


So.... basically all the corporate executives who are making these
decisions to outsource to China are in a sense committing a long,
slow, drawn-out act of treason in return for profit, eh?

Not to put too fine a point on it, yes.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-11-28 16:36:19 -0800, James Sleeman said:

Come on people, usually I give pilots some accepted base line of
intelligence and reasoning, but it seems it's largely gone out the
window on this one. Chinese manufacturers of CONSUMER products have
had more than thier fair share of problems to be sure, but it's a hell
of a stretch to compare consumer products with aircraft manufacture.

The LSA is a consumer product.


Do you honestly think that CESSNA is going to stake thier name,
reputation, and conceivably risk the entire business by going with an
aircraft manufacturer who would produce shoddy unreliable or dangerous
aircraft?!

Yep.


More so, do you honestly think that either Cessna OR your country's
respective aviation authorities are going to let obviously shoddy
unreliable or dangerous aircraft get anywhere near the hands of Joe
Bloggs the pilot?!

Yep.


Please, at least show some common sense here.

What makes you think that aircraft manufacturers or government
regulators will suddenly start doing any better than they have in the
past?


Cessna have obviously done thier homework, they have weighed the pros
and cons, and at the end of the day, the most effective solution
presented itself.

To decry the aircraft on the sole fact that it will be constructed in
China simply smacks of xenophobia. If you have a criticism of the
aircraft, at least make it something worth criticising!

I think that the fact that the aircraft will be made in a country that
is hostile the United States, whose military leaders have publicly
threatened to use nuclear weapons on our forces, which has possibly the
worst environmental record in history, uses slave labor, supplies arms
and advice to terrorists, has the worst reputation for patent and
copyright piracy, launders counterfeit American currency for the North
Koreans, has shown callous disregard for consumer safety in its
industrial standards, and has a horrible human rights record is
something worth criticizing.

Frankly, Cessna would have done better to have let the contract out to
Satan himself.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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To decry the aircraft on the sole fact that it will be constructed in
China simply smacks of xenophobia.

I think that the fact that the aircraft will be made in a country that is
hostile the United States, whose military leaders have publicly threatened
to use nuclear weapons on our forces, which has possibly the worst
environmental record in history, uses slave labor, supplies arms and
advice to terrorists, has the worst reputation for patent and copyright
piracy, launders counterfeit American currency for the North Koreans,
has shown callous disregard for consumer safety in its industrial
standards, and has a horrible human rights record is something worth
criticizing.

Nicely stated.

Do they still abandon baby girls on the side of rivers or eat engangered
tiger penises to give themselves a hard-on? Do they still imprison
political dissidents, spy on their own people or censor the media?

Xenophobia? They're no better than the Soviet Union. At least the USSR
helped win World War II.

Last week I went to the mall looking for work shoes, and literally -every-
pair I looked at was made in China. The last pair I bought there lasted
about six months, but that's not why I didn't buy Chinese shoes this time.
I went home, dug out my old circa-1988 Marine Corps GI work boots, put a
coat of polish on them and that's what I've been wearing all week. Made in
America. They're not pretty but I know they weren't made in some communist
sweatshop.

-c

Gatt wrote:


Do they still abandon baby girls on the side of rivers...

Only the ones that are lucky or not lucky to be born in the first place.

On 2007-11-28 16:36:19 -0800, James Sleeman said:


Cessna have obviously done thier homework, they have weighed the pros
and cons, and at the end of the day, the most effective solution
presented itself.



The most effective solution being the use of slave labor and not having
to comply with any environmental laws? No wonder things are cheaper
when manufactured in China!
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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On 2007-11-28 16:36:19 -0800, James Sleeman said:


Cessna have obviously done thier homework, they have weighed the pros
and cons, and at the end of the day, the most effective solution
presented itself.

The most effective solution being the use of slave labor and not having to
comply with any environmental laws? No wonder things are cheaper when
manufactured in China!

Exactly. If you just: don't pay your employees anything; lie about using,
say, toxic paint; pirate, copy or steal other people's technology and; kill
anybody who speaks out in dissent, you can save a lot of money.

Money, at the end of the day, is all that matters to most people.

-c

"Gatt" wrote in message
...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007112911225837709-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...

The most effective solution being the use of slave labor and not having
to comply with any environmental laws? No wonder things are cheaper when
manufactured in China!

Exactly. If you just: don't pay your employees anything; lie about using,
say, toxic paint; pirate, copy or steal other people's technology and;
kill anybody who speaks out in dissent, you can save a lot of money.

Money, at the end of the day, is all that matters to most people.


At least money in the short-term.