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"Peter R." wrote in message
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On 12/5/2007 10:40:30 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:

Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing coffee
is
between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be served at that
temperature.

So you brew a pot of coffee at that temperature, then what? Wait 20
minutes
for it to cool down? Of course not. You draw off a cup right away.

Also your prime rib example is not a valid comparison. Beef has to sit 5
to
10 minutes before you cut into it or you risk losing all the juice and
making
it too dry.

Okay, you two -- take this to rec.fan.cooking :~)

"Peter R." wrote:
On 12/5/2007 10:40:30 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:

Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing
coffee is between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be
served at that temperature.

So you brew a pot of coffee at that temperature, then what? Wait 20
minutes for it to cool down? Of course not. You draw off a cup
right away.

So heat a cup of water to 195 F and drink it. Then report back the results.

Jim Logajan wrote:
"Peter R." wrote:
On 12/5/2007 10:40:30 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:

Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing
coffee is between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be
served at that temperature.

So you brew a pot of coffee at that temperature, then what? Wait 20
minutes for it to cool down? Of course not. You draw off a cup
right away.

So heat a cup of water to 195 F and drink it. Then report back the
results.

DISCLAIMER: KIDS DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME. This experiment should only be
performed by masochists and those with reckless disregard for their own
safety. Also make sure your health insurance is paid up to date.

On 12/5/2007 4:42:31 PM, Jim Logajan wrote:

So heat a cup of water to 195 F and drink it. Then report back the
results.

Bland to the taste, could use flavor.


--
Peter

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote

Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing coffee is
between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be served at that
temperature. If I cook a prime rib at 375 F I don't plan to serve it at
that temperature.

Exactly. NOBODY can drink coffee at 180 degrees. Few could drink it at
140.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote

Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing
coffee is between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be
served at that temperature. If I cook a prime rib at 375 F I don't
plan to serve it at that temperature.

Exactly. NOBODY can drink coffee at 180 degrees.

You haven't met mrs. Bunyip. I'm not kidding.. Straight out of the pot, no
colling. She must have had her tongue cauterised by hot drinks until it was
leather when she was a child.


Bertie

Morgans wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote

Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing coffee is
between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be served at that
temperature. If I cook a prime rib at 375 F I don't plan to serve it at
that temperature.

Exactly. NOBODY can drink coffee at 180 degrees. Few could drink it at
140.

Right. Most McDonalds are in towns or cities. I don't drive and drink
coffee when in high traffic and congested areas. Even where I live, in
a fairly rural area, most McDonalds are located such that I must drive
5-10 minutes before I'm in an area safe enough to drive my coffee while
driving. By then the coffee is easily sipped and soon after can be
gulped, and this is without adding cream or sugar which cool the coffee.
If I was served coffee at 120 degrees, it would be barely above body
temperature 10 minutes later and that would not make me a happy camper.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote

If I was served coffee at 120 degrees, it would be barely above body
temperature 10 minutes later and that would not make me a happy camper.

They make little pull offs at every Mc D's so you could open your coffee
lid, and get it into your cup holder. Then you could start drinking it in
most any traffic.

If that does not do it, then you should get one of those little heating
elements that plug into your cigarette lighter to heat up your cup of
coffee.

Don't expect the rest of the world to give up their safety and needs to fit
your requirements.
--
Jim in NC

Matt Whiting wrote:
Morgans wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote

Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing
coffee is between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be
served at that temperature. If I cook a prime rib at 375 F I don't
plan to serve it at that temperature.

Exactly. NOBODY can drink coffee at 180 degrees. Few could drink
it at 140.

Right. Most McDonalds are in towns or cities. I don't drive and
drink coffee when in high traffic and congested areas. Even where I
live, in a fairly rural area, most McDonalds are located such that I
must drive 5-10 minutes before I'm in an area safe enough to drive my
coffee while driving. By then the coffee is easily sipped and soon
after can be gulped, and this is without adding cream or sugar which
cool the coffee. If I was served coffee at 120 degrees, it would be
barely above body temperature 10 minutes later and that would not
make me a happy camper.
Matt

Unfortunately most people aren't as responsible as you are Matt. McD's
research showed most people started drinking right away.

Criticizing the system based on the McDonald's case is a fallacy. The
reason it got so much attention is because it was an abberant result,
at least as far as the jury verdict. The judge reduced the damages
substantialy, which shows one of the safeguards that the system has.
They are not perfect, but they usually work. There will always be a
bad result every once in awhile; e.g., O.J.'s criminal trial and any
number of others. Can you name any human system that doesn't screw up
once in awhile? You need to realize that there are literally tens of
thousand verdicts or court decisions each year. In almost every case
at least half the participants feel that the outcome was wrong. The
fact that there seems to be some disagreement among the members of
this newsgroup shows that the answer is not always clear, even here.
Anyone care to guess which entities file the most lawsuits? (I don't
mean "lawyers", either. Ha, ha.)
As an aside, i once heard it said that the justice system is simply a
means to an end. i.e., to resolve a dispute. Nothing more, nothing
less. I often tell people that in law school, the one word I never
heard discussed by any professor, in any class or in any lawbook was
the word "fair." This shocks many people, but after all, what is
"fair"? The legal system has no answer to that question any more than
does any religion or anything else.