Dick Rutan makes emergency landing in C150

Gig601XLBuilder wrote in
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Marty Shapiro wrote:
Denny wrote in news:7e60896b-29ad-4df9-b10e-
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We can snicker all we want at the clueless reporting of a liberal arts
major, low man on the totem pole, who gets sent to report on general
aviation - but how many of us have contacted the paqper and the tv
station and offered to take the general news reporter(s) flying on a
saturday afternoon so we can teach them the basics?

denny hand up


There was an newscaster in the Bay area many years ago who
read an report about a GA incident on the air. This report contained
several factual errors about the incident, among which was the picture
of a twin for the single engine aircraft involved. The irony was he
was a well known local pilot. About a week later, he MCed an all day
safety seminar. The first question asked of him was about the factual
errors in his report. His response was "I receive a 7 figure salary
for reading the news that is handed to me by the editors. If they
give me advance copy and I notice an error, I'll point it out to them,
but when I'm on the air, I am not going to jeapordize my salary by
altering what they hand me."

That last statement also pretty much sums of my impression of
journalistic integrity.

Matt

I tend to agree with you on this but he said, "I receive a 7 figure
salary for reading the news that is handed to me by the editors." That
makes him an announcer not a journalist. So in my opinion he is no
different than an actor on some TV show or movie that reads lines.

I find it amazing though that any TV news anchor would say that in
public or even in private. Not that I question Denny's story at all I
just find it amazing.

At every TV station I where I ever worked the primary anchor also held
the position of managing editor, news director or some other title that
would, at least in title, give them some say over the news that was
released.

I believe all of the three major network's anchors hold the title
managing editor. At least they did when the last generation was in the
big chair.

Also, I'd like to add that that comment alone would have jeopardized the
7 figure salary of any anchor that ever worked for any news director I
ever worked for. But then I've been out of the business for, damn, 20
years now.

When was the last time the anchor at a major TV station actually went into
the field as a reporter? Years ago that was still done, but at any network
station in a major market today do any of the anchors ever go out an cover
a story any more? I don't think so. They have become actors who just read
the news. Once they stop covering stories and just read them, they have
stopped being journalists.

20 years ago, anchors did still cover stories and were reporters, editors,
etc., especially at the smaller stations and to a lesser extent, but still
to some extent, at the major stations. Are the news departments today
still independent or do they report to the entertainment department?

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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Marty Shapiro wrote:


When was the last time the anchor at a major TV station actually went into
the field as a reporter? Years ago that was still done, but at any network
station in a major market today do any of the anchors ever go out an cover
a story any more? I don't think so. They have become actors who just read
the news. Once they stop covering stories and just read them, they have
stopped being journalists.

20 years ago, anchors did still cover stories and were reporters, editors,
etc., especially at the smaller stations and to a lesser extent, but still
to some extent, at the major stations. Are the news departments today
still independent or do they report to the entertainment department?


I watch both LA and NY network station's local news from time to time
off the dish. I've seen virtually all of the anchors out "in the field"
from time to time, usually during sweeps.

All the major network's news departments are still independent at least
in name and none answer to entertainment though they are not as
independent from management as they once were.

"Gig" == Gig601XLBuilder writes:

Gig I tend to agree with you on this but he said, "I receive a 7
Gig figure salary for reading the news that is handed to me by
Gig the editors." That makes him an announcer not a
Gig journalist. So in my opinion he is no different than an actor
Gig on some TV show or movie that reads lines.

Which is why I prefer to watch to Spanish language TV stations for
news. First, they cover a lot of important stuff that never appears on
mainstream TV. Second, they make no pretense about their anchors
having any talent or status so generally hire good-looking tarts that
can speak well. Makes for more pleasant viewing.

Working in California's capital, I laugh at the lengths the TV
stations go to have their blow-dried anchors do a "report" in front of
the Capitol Building...just so the viewers can be deceived into
thinking said anchor did some investigation, I suppose. Jeez they
should film some standard important-building-during-different-seasons
backgrounds and photoshop their anchors in front of it. Would save a
lot of money.
--
Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates
in the country.
~ Marion Barry, former mayor Washington D.C.

Gig601XLBuilder wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
Marty Shapiro wrote:
Denny wrote in news:7e60896b-29ad-4df9-b10e-
:

We can snicker all we want at the clueless reporting of a liberal arts
major, low man on the totem pole, who gets sent to report on general
aviation - but how many of us have contacted the paqper and the tv
station and offered to take the general news reporter(s) flying on a
saturday afternoon so we can teach them the basics?

denny hand up


There was an newscaster in the Bay area many years ago who
read an report about a GA incident on the air. This report
contained several factual errors about the incident, among which was
the picture of a twin for the single engine aircraft involved. The
irony was he was a well known local pilot. About a week later, he
MCed an all day safety seminar. The first question asked of him was
about the factual errors in his report. His response was "I receive
a 7 figure salary for reading the news that is handed to me by the
editors. If they give me advance copy and I notice an error, I'll
point it out to them, but when I'm on the air, I am not going to
jeapordize my salary by altering what they hand me."

That last statement also pretty much sums of my impression of
journalistic integrity.

Matt

I tend to agree with you on this but he said, "I receive a 7 figure
salary for reading the news that is handed to me by the editors." That
makes him an announcer not a journalist. So in my opinion he is no
different than an actor on some TV show or movie that reads lines.

You make a good point, but I don't think the general public makes a
distinction between announcer and journalist and I don't much either.
The person on the tube is the "face of journalism" to me and I haven't
been addressed since Cronkite and his generation retired.

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
Marty Shapiro wrote:
Denny wrote in news:7e60896b-29ad-4df9-b10e-
:

We can snicker all we want at the clueless reporting of a liberal arts
major, low man on the totem pole, who gets sent to report on general
aviation - but how many of us have contacted the paqper and the tv
station and offered to take the general news reporter(s) flying on a
saturday afternoon so we can teach them the basics?

denny hand up


There was an newscaster in the Bay area many years ago who
read an report about a GA incident on the air. This report
contained several factual errors about the incident, among which was
the picture of a twin for the single engine aircraft involved. The
irony was he was a well known local pilot. About a week later, he
MCed an all day safety seminar. The first question asked of him was
about the factual errors in his report. His response was "I receive
a 7 figure salary for reading the news that is handed to me by the
editors. If they give me advance copy and I notice an error, I'll
point it out to them, but when I'm on the air, I am not going to
jeapordize my salary by altering what they hand me."

That last statement also pretty much sums of my impression of
journalistic integrity.

Matt

I tend to agree with you on this but he said, "I receive a 7 figure
salary for reading the news that is handed to me by the editors." That
makes him an announcer not a journalist. So in my opinion he is no
different than an actor on some TV show or movie that reads lines.

You make a good point, but I don't think the general public makes a
distinction between announcer and journalist and I don't much either.
The person on the tube is the "face of journalism" to me and I haven't
been addressed since Cronkite and his generation retired.

That was supposed to be impressed, not addressed! I don't know where
that came from...

Matt

Cronkite was the propagandist that lost the war in VN, of course he worked
for CBS rather than CNN, but the C still means the same thing.


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
news | Matt Whiting wrote:
| Gig601XLBuilder wrote:
| Matt Whiting wrote:
| Marty Shapiro wrote:
| Denny wrote in news:7e60896b-29ad-4df9-b10e-
| :
|
| We can snicker all we want at the clueless reporting of a liberal
arts
| major, low man on the totem pole, who gets sent to report on general
| aviation - but how many of us have contacted the paqper and the tv
| station and offered to take the general news reporter(s) flying on a
| saturday afternoon so we can teach them the basics?
|
| denny hand up
|
|
| There was an newscaster in the Bay area many years ago who
| read an report about a GA incident on the air. This report
| contained several factual errors about the incident, among which was
| the picture of a twin for the single engine aircraft involved. The
| irony was he was a well known local pilot. About a week later, he
| MCed an all day safety seminar. The first question asked of him was
| about the factual errors in his report. His response was "I receive
| a 7 figure salary for reading the news that is handed to me by the
| editors. If they give me advance copy and I notice an error, I'll
| point it out to them, but when I'm on the air, I am not going to
| jeapordize my salary by altering what they hand me."
|
| That last statement also pretty much sums of my impression of
| journalistic integrity.
|
| Matt
|
| I tend to agree with you on this but he said, "I receive a 7 figure
| salary for reading the news that is handed to me by the editors." That
| makes him an announcer not a journalist. So in my opinion he is no
| different than an actor on some TV show or movie that reads lines.
|
| You make a good point, but I don't think the general public makes a
| distinction between announcer and journalist and I don't much either.
| The person on the tube is the "face of journalism" to me and I haven't
| been addressed since Cronkite and his generation retired.
|
| That was supposed to be impressed, not addressed! I don't know where
| that came from...
|
| Matt