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On 27 Dec, 18:54, danlj wrote:
On Dec 27, 12:33 pm, Ian wrote: On 26 Dec, 19:36, Wayne Hoover wrote: Scopolamine not only causes tiredness it can also cause blurred vision and dilates the the pupils which are also reasons not to use it while flying. Indeed - if one is so affected. If one is not so affected, no problem. As a physician and aviation medical examiner I wish to demur as clearly as possible from any recommendation to use scopalamine for motion sickness while flying. You go right ahead, and welcome. I never have felt the need to use a patch while flying because, although I am plagued by sea-sickness, I have never had any significant problems in the air. If I did start to suffer air- sickness, however, I would cheerfully consider using Scopaderm TTS patches. They are available in the UK as an over-the-counter medicine, and the relevant warning simply says (and I quote) "This medication causes drowsiness which may continue the next day. If affected do not drive or operate machinery. Avoid alcoholic drink." Note that "if affected". As I wrote before, I have spent months of my life wearing these patches and have noticed no side effects at all, save a slightly dry mouth which is useful reassurance that the patch is active. I'm not a doctor (well, not your sort). I'm not making any recommendations. I am, however an experienced user of Scopaderm, and I have a healthy desire to preserve my own life. Best wishes, Ian |
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On Dec 29, 3:35*am, Ian wrote:
snip I never have felt the need to use a patch while flying because, although I am plagued by sea-sickness, I have never had any significant problems in the air. If I did start to suffer air- sickness, however, I would cheerfully consider using Scopaderm TTS patches. They are available in the UK as an over-the-counter medicine, and the relevant warning simply says (and I quote) "This medication causes drowsiness which may continue the next day. If affected do not drive or operate machinery. Avoid alcoholic drink." Note that "if affected". As I wrote before, I have spent months of my life wearing these patches and have noticed no side effects at all, save a slightly dry mouth which is useful reassurance that the patch is active. snip Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the hardest thing to do. |
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Cats wrote:
If affected do not drive or operate machinery. Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the hardest thing to do. The same person that judges if you are fit to fly based on all factors: Had enough sleep? Backache? Headache? Leg(s)/Arm(s) ache? Emotionally fit? The list is endless. If you are in doubt about being able to judge if you are fit to fly, then don't fly. Regards, -Doug |
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On Dec 29, 11:55*am, Doug Hoffman no.spam wrote:
Cats wrote: If affected do not drive or operate machinery. Who is going to judge if you are affected? *Judging ourselves is the hardest thing to do. The same person that judges if you are fit to fly based on all factors: Had enough sleep? *Backache? *Headache? *Leg(s)/Arm(s) ache? Emotionally fit? *The list is endless. *If you are in doubt about being able to judge if you are fit to fly, then don't fly. The problem as I understand it with this drug is that what it impairs in those affected are the faculties we use to decide if we are impaired... |
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On 29 Dec, 08:16, Cats wrote:
On Dec 29, 3:35 am, Ian wrote: Note that "if affected". As I wrote before, I have spent months of my life wearing these patches and have noticed no side effects at all, save a slightly dry mouth which is useful reassurance that the patch is active. Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the hardest thing to do. That's a very good question. Can I stress that I would only consider wearing the patches while flying as a last resort. As for effects, there are two categories. First, drowsiness. I have worn them enough to be confident that FOR ME there is no problem with drowsiness. It's only a potential side effect - some people are strongly affected and some not at all. Second, other impairments. I have not seen anything in the literature - I read this up quite carefully, as a lay person, before using the patches whilst sailing single-handed - to back up the suggestion that Scopolamine generally or even commonly has similar effects to alcohol. If I did decide to try it then I would certainly fly with an instructor and ask for a really tricky check flight. Any problems and of course I wouldn't fly solo. Ian |
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