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Old December 29th 07, 03:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ian
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Default Scopalamine and piloting

On 27 Dec, 18:54, danlj wrote:
On Dec 27, 12:33 pm, Ian wrote:

On 26 Dec, 19:36, Wayne Hoover wrote:


Scopolamine not only causes tiredness it can also cause blurred vision
and dilates the the pupils which are also reasons not to use it while
flying.


Indeed - if one is so affected. If one is not so affected, no problem.


As a physician and aviation medical examiner I wish to demur as
clearly as possible from any recommendation to use scopalamine for
motion sickness while flying.


You go right ahead, and welcome.

I never have felt the need to use a patch while flying because,
although I am plagued by sea-sickness, I have never had any
significant problems in the air. If I did start to suffer air-
sickness, however, I would cheerfully consider using Scopaderm TTS
patches. They are available in the UK as an over-the-counter medicine,
and the relevant warning simply says (and I quote) "This medication
causes drowsiness which may continue the next day. If affected do not
drive or operate machinery. Avoid alcoholic drink."

Note that "if affected". As I wrote before, I have spent months of my
life wearing these patches and have noticed no side effects at all,
save a slightly dry mouth which is useful reassurance that the patch
is active.

I'm not a doctor (well, not your sort). I'm not making any
recommendations. I am, however an experienced user of Scopaderm, and I
have a healthy desire to preserve my own life.

Best wishes,

Ian
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Old December 29th 07, 08:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Cats
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Default Scopalamine and piloting

On Dec 29, 3:35*am, Ian wrote:
snip

I never have felt the need to use a patch while flying because,
although I am plagued by sea-sickness, I have never had any
significant problems in the air. If I did start to suffer air-
sickness, however, I would cheerfully consider using Scopaderm TTS
patches. They are available in the UK as an over-the-counter medicine,
and the relevant warning simply says (and I quote) "This medication
causes drowsiness which may continue the next day. If affected do not
drive or operate machinery. Avoid alcoholic drink."

Note that "if affected". As I wrote before, I have spent months of my
life wearing these patches and have noticed no side effects at all,
save a slightly dry mouth which is useful reassurance that the patch
is active.

snip

Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.

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Old December 29th 07, 11:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Doug Hoffman[_2_]
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Default Scopalamine and piloting

Cats wrote:

If affected do not drive or operate machinery.


Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.


The same person that judges if you are fit to fly based on all factors:
Had enough sleep? Backache? Headache? Leg(s)/Arm(s) ache?
Emotionally fit? The list is endless. If you are in doubt about being
able to judge if you are fit to fly, then don't fly.

Regards,

-Doug

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Old December 29th 07, 06:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Cats
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On Dec 29, 11:55*am, Doug Hoffman no.spam wrote:
Cats wrote:
If affected do not drive or operate machinery.

Who is going to judge if you are affected? *Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.


The same person that judges if you are fit to fly based on all factors:
Had enough sleep? *Backache? *Headache? *Leg(s)/Arm(s) ache?
Emotionally fit? *The list is endless. *If you are in doubt about being
able to judge if you are fit to fly, then don't fly.


The problem as I understand it with this drug is that what it impairs
in those affected are the faculties we use to decide if we are
impaired...
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Old December 29th 07, 11:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ian
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On 29 Dec, 08:16, Cats wrote:
On Dec 29, 3:35 am, Ian wrote:


Note that "if affected". As I wrote before, I have spent months of my
life wearing these patches and have noticed no side effects at all,
save a slightly dry mouth which is useful reassurance that the patch
is active.


Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.


That's a very good question. Can I stress that I would only consider
wearing the patches while flying as a last resort. As for effects,
there are two categories. First, drowsiness. I have worn them enough
to be confident that FOR ME there is no problem with drowsiness. It's
only a potential side effect - some people are strongly affected and
some not at all. Second, other impairments. I have not seen anything
in the literature - I read this up quite carefully, as a lay person,
before using the patches whilst sailing single-handed - to back up the
suggestion that Scopolamine generally or even commonly has similar
effects to alcohol. If I did decide to try it then I would certainly
fly with an instructor and ask for a really tricky check flight. Any
problems and of course I wouldn't fly solo.

Ian
 




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