The Relief Band for Nausea Relief

On Dec 29, 3:35*am, Ian wrote:
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I never have felt the need to use a patch while flying because,
although I am plagued by sea-sickness, I have never had any
significant problems in the air. If I did start to suffer air-
sickness, however, I would cheerfully consider using Scopaderm TTS
patches. They are available in the UK as an over-the-counter medicine,
and the relevant warning simply says (and I quote) "This medication
causes drowsiness which may continue the next day. If affected do not
drive or operate machinery. Avoid alcoholic drink."

Note that "if affected". As I wrote before, I have spent months of my
life wearing these patches and have noticed no side effects at all,
save a slightly dry mouth which is useful reassurance that the patch
is active.

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Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.

Cats wrote:

If affected do not drive or operate machinery.

Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.

The same person that judges if you are fit to fly based on all factors:
Had enough sleep? Backache? Headache? Leg(s)/Arm(s) ache?
Emotionally fit? The list is endless. If you are in doubt about being
able to judge if you are fit to fly, then don't fly.

Regards,

-Doug

On Dec 29, 11:55*am, Doug Hoffman no.spam wrote:
Cats wrote:
If affected do not drive or operate machinery.
Who is going to judge if you are affected? *Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.

The same person that judges if you are fit to fly based on all factors:
Had enough sleep? *Backache? *Headache? *Leg(s)/Arm(s) ache?
Emotionally fit? *The list is endless. *If you are in doubt about being
able to judge if you are fit to fly, then don't fly.

The problem as I understand it with this drug is that what it impairs
in those affected are the faculties we use to decide if we are
impaired...

Cats wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:55 am, Doug Hoffman no.spam wrote:
Cats wrote:
If affected do not drive or operate machinery.
Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.

The same person that judges if you are fit to fly based on all factors:
Had enough sleep? Backache? Headache? Leg(s)/Arm(s) ache?
Emotionally fit? The list is endless. If you are in doubt about being
able to judge if you are fit to fly, then don't fly.

The problem as I understand it with this drug is that what it impairs
in those affected are the faculties we use to decide if we are
impaired...

It is up to you and your judgment to decide to do something like what
Ian has suggested:

"If I did decide to try it then I would certainly
fly with an instructor and ask for a really tricky
check flight. Any problems and of course I wouldn't
fly solo."


Now, if this drug is so perverse that when taken it causes one to then
cancel the flight evaluation, then we really do have a problem. ;-)


Regards,

-Doug

On 29 Dec, 18:38, Cats wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:55 am, Doug Hoffman no.spam wrote:

The same person that judges if you are fit to fly based on all factors:
Had enough sleep? Backache? Headache? Leg(s)/Arm(s) ache?
Emotionally fit? The list is endless. If you are in doubt about being
able to judge if you are fit to fly, then don't fly.

The problem as I understand it with this drug is that what it impairs
in those affected are the faculties we use to decide if we are
impaired...

That claim has been made, but I have seen no evidence here or
elsewhere to support it. The four main side effects of Scopolamine -
are dry mouth, drowsiness, dizziness and blurred vision. Of these only
the dry mouth is common.

The claim that a Scopaderm TTS patch has the same effect as a glass of
wine does not seem to be borne out by the literature, though I am
happy, as always, to take correction on that point.

Ian

On 29 Dec, 08:16, Cats wrote:
On Dec 29, 3:35 am, Ian wrote:

Note that "if affected". As I wrote before, I have spent months of my
life wearing these patches and have noticed no side effects at all,
save a slightly dry mouth which is useful reassurance that the patch
is active.

Who is going to judge if you are affected? Judging ourselves is the
hardest thing to do.

That's a very good question. Can I stress that I would only consider
wearing the patches while flying as a last resort. As for effects,
there are two categories. First, drowsiness. I have worn them enough
to be confident that FOR ME there is no problem with drowsiness. It's
only a potential side effect - some people are strongly affected and
some not at all. Second, other impairments. I have not seen anything
in the literature - I read this up quite carefully, as a lay person,
before using the patches whilst sailing single-handed - to back up the
suggestion that Scopolamine generally or even commonly has similar
effects to alcohol. If I did decide to try it then I would certainly
fly with an instructor and ask for a really tricky check flight. Any
problems and of course I wouldn't fly solo.

Ian