allowing guns in cockpits

wrote:
Its hard to say... In Singapore, owning firearms is a capital offense
punishable by death and it is probably the safest country in the
world. Their thinking is quite logical because why would you want to
own a gun other than to kill? And so they see no point in letting a
person with a gun live. Gun control doesn't always have to be about
giving a free pass to criminals.
Japan is another extremely safe country where guns are strictly
controlled without the harsh penalties of Singapore. Education,
culture, laws etc all play a role in making a country safe. Would
Japan be just as safe if everybody owned a gun? Its possible but
hardly worth the experiment.


Criminals are actually treated like criminals in those countries.
And you're right... execution and long prison terms in very
unpleasant conditions are the penalties for crime. (Do they really
chop your hand off for stealing in some Arab countries?)

Anyway... in contrast, criminals in the US are coddled with
free health care... TV sets... probably live better than most
hard working people in Asian countries. Inmates get to sue their
victims and even the state if they don't like their conditions.
Hillary has even proposed that criminals should be able to vote.

As long as our criminal justice system is the way it is
people need and deserve a countermeasure... if they so choose.

wrote in message
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Its hard to say... In Singapore, owning firearms is a capital offense
punishable by death and it is probably the safest country in the
world.

Well, it's harldly that safe, but it is a police state.

Their thinking is quite logical because why would you want to
own a gun other than to kill?

Were did you learn logic?

And so they see no point in letting a
person with a gun live. Gun control doesn't always have to be about
giving a free pass to criminals.

Sounds like any other tyranny.

Thanks for showing your true side.

Japan is another extremely safe country where guns are strictly
controlled without the harsh penalties of Singapore. Education,
culture, laws etc all play a role in making a country safe. Would
Japan be just as safe if everybody owned a gun? Its possible but
hardly worth the experiment.

First and second generation Japanese in the the US have about the same
homicide rate as those in Japan.

Fella', you don't need to do experiments - you can use LOGIC (yes, the real
stuff, not the phoney stuff you allude to above) in conceptualization
(actually, you HAVE to use it, otherwise it's a "floating abstraction).

wrote:
Its hard to say... In Singapore, owning firearms is a capital offense
punishable by death and it is probably the safest country in the
world. Their thinking is quite logical because why would you want to
own a gun other than to kill? And so they see no point in letting a
person with a gun live. Gun control doesn't always have to be about
giving a free pass to criminals.
Japan is another extremely safe country where guns are strictly
controlled without the harsh penalties of Singapore. Education,
culture, laws etc all play a role in making a country safe. Would
Japan be just as safe if everybody owned a gun? Its possible but
hardly worth the experiment.

And Japan has an almost 100% "confession" rate of people arrested. Do
you know what that is? Might want to do some homework before answering.

Matt

On Jan 2, 9:32*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:

allowing guns in cockpits

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647

It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.

-Robert

The airlines have too. This article was not terribly accurate (Look at
the source).
FB

On Jan 3, 4:26*am, "F. Baum" wrote:
On Jan 2, 9:32*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:

allowing guns in cockpits

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647

It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.

-Robert

The airlines have too. This article was not terribly accurate (Look at
the source).
FB

There was a time that pilots were required to carry guns (if there was
mail on board). Someone had the common sense to know that people won't
try to steal the mail if they know that the pilots may shoot back. I
guess we've lost that reason because today we assume everyone is too
stupid to own a gun or buy a car, etc and we look to the gov't to
provide our personal security.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in news:9d642ad3-b78a-4160-
:

On Jan 3, 4:26*am, "F. Baum" wrote:
On Jan 2, 9:32*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:

allowing guns in cockpits

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647

It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work
for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.

-Robert

The airlines have too. This article was not terribly accurate (Look
at
the source).
FB

There was a time that pilots were required to carry guns (if there was
mail on board). Someone had the common sense to know that people won't
try to steal the mail if they know that the pilots may shoot back.

Actually, that law was still in place up until the late fifties at
least.
It was only carried over from rail law. Largely because a lot of the
early mail contracts were extensions of rail contracts.


I
guess we've lost that reason because today we assume everyone is too
stupid to own a gun or buy a car, etc and we look to the gov't to
provide our personal security.

Well, actually, the more immediate concerns are the likelyhood of a
pilot actually stopping a trained soldier with a gun. The guys who have
opted into carrying have had some special training on accout of this
concern, but the fact is ther are better ways to do this which I'm no
going to discuss here, cowboy bob.


Bertie

On Jan 9, 6:36*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Well, actually, the more immediate concerns are the likelyhood of a
pilot actually stopping a trained soldier with a gun.

Yea, I guess it seems different when you take the argument to the
ridicules extreme. I guess a gun isn't useful unless it has a nuclear
warhead on it and can take out an entire battalion of soldiers. Its a
lot like saying anyone who picks up a pen better be ready to rewrite
the works of Shakespeare because anything less is not useful.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jan 3, 4:26 am, "F. Baum" wrote:
On Jan 2, 9:32 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:46 pm, "Private" wrote:
allowing guns in cockpits
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647
It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.
-Robert
The airlines have too. This article was not terribly accurate (Look at
the source).
FB

There was a time that pilots were required to carry guns (if there was
mail on board). Someone had the common sense to know that people won't
try to steal the mail if they know that the pilots may shoot back. I
guess we've lost that reason because today we assume everyone is too
stupid to own a gun or buy a car, etc and we look to the gov't to
provide our personal security.

The sad part is that our liberal government and society today places
less value on human life than our forefathers placed on the mail.

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote in news:yLehj.1416$2n4.31752
@news1.epix.net:

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jan 3, 4:26 am, "F. Baum" wrote:
On Jan 2, 9:32 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:46 pm, "Private" wrote:
allowing guns in cockpits
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647
It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.
-Robert
The airlines have too. This article was not terribly accurate (Look at
the source).
FB

There was a time that pilots were required to carry guns (if there was
mail on board). Someone had the common sense to know that people won't
try to steal the mail if they know that the pilots may shoot back. I
guess we've lost that reason because today we assume everyone is too
stupid to own a gun or buy a car, etc and we look to the gov't to
provide our personal security.

The sad part is that our liberal government and society today places
less value on human life than our forefathers placed on the mail.


Yeah, right.


Bertie

"Private" wrote in :

allowing guns in cockpits

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647



Not exaclty up to date, is it?


Bertie