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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
: Mxsmanic wrote in : WingFlaps writes: So how do you explain the rather well known lapse rate? It depends on which lapse rate you have in mind. The one which states that as the temperature rises, the two molecules in your head take a siesta. Bertie When did his intelligence double to two molecules? |
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Benjamin Dover wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote in : Mxsmanic wrote in : WingFlaps writes: So how do you explain the rather well known lapse rate? It depends on which lapse rate you have in mind. The one which states that as the temperature rises, the two molecules in your head take a siesta. Bertie When did his intelligence double to two molecules? Same way he reproduces. Mytosis. Bertie |
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On Feb 10, 12:05 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote : WingFlaps writes: So how do you explain the rather well known lapse rate? It depends on which lapse rate you have in mind. The one which states that as the temperature rises, the two molecules in your head take a siesta. Bertie Those two molecules you so gaily mock, are the only things separating the universe from an implosion of matter and anti-matter. (See previous thread of Star Trek engine noises). "Dogs and cats sleeping together. MASS HYSTERIA!" Mxsmaniac is a 30-foot twinkie. |
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On Feb 14, 7:18 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote : On Feb 10, 12:05 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Mxsmanic wrote : WingFlaps writes: So how do you explain the rather well known lapse rate? It depends on which lapse rate you have in mind. The one which states that as the temperature rises, the two molecules in your head take a siesta. Bertie Those two molecules you so gaily mock, are the only things separating the universe from an implosion of matter and anti-matter. (See previous thread of Star Trek engine noises). You don't think that Anthony's are the two particles that theyy're going to try to rip a hole in space/time with in that Larg Hadron Collider this year? "Dogs and cats sleeping together. MASS HYSTERIA!" Mxsmaniac is a 30-foot twinkie. I know this reference form somewhere, but can;'t place it. It could only be KV2, though. Bertie I think he's already got a ripped hole. Yeah, curious to see if the universe turns inside out. There was a decent sci-fi novel based on this experiment a few years ago but can't remember the name. The quotes are from Ghostbusters. "She barks, she drools, she sleeps above the covers....four FEET above the covers". |
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On Feb 11, 5:47*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
WingFlaps writes: So how do you explain the rather well known lapse rate? In both cases, the correlation is between temperature and altitude, not temperature and pressure. Are you saying the air knows how high it is? That's amazing 'cos I use a sensitive pressure meter to tell me my altitude! Sounds like you are BS'ing to cover a mistake to me. Cheers |
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WingFlaps wrote in news:119b347f-0e1d-4af3-a695-
: On Feb 11, 5:47*am, Mxsmanic wrote: WingFlaps writes: So how do you explain the rather well known lapse rate? In both cases, the correlation is between temperature and altitude, not temperature and pressure. Are you saying the air knows how high it is? Qustin is: does Anthony? Bertie |
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WingFlaps writes:
Are you saying the air knows how high it is? No. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: WingFlaps writes: Are you saying the air knows how high it is? No. Wrong/ Bertie |
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On Feb 10, 9:47 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
So, overall, the air is always warmest at the surface. There are some anomalies higher in the atmosphere. Not always. Not at all always. We frequently get inversions where the air 1000' feet up is much warmer than that on the surface. Inversions are very common here, and I would imagine they're common most anywhere away from the equator. We've had days here, in the winter, where we've left the ground where the temp is -20°C, and found -18°C at 3000' agl. Often I find the winds howling at 25 or 30 knots just 200 feet above the surface, while the wind on the ground is zilch and the temp is 25 degrees colder. "Always" just doesn't deal with reality. Works on a sim, I suppose. Parcels of air that rise in the atmosphere will cool as the pressure in the atmosphere drops, and this is responsible the adiabatic lapse rate. If you'd ever studied meteorology (Commercial Pilot groundschool) you'd know that the temp falls with altitude until we reach the tropopause. Then it starts rising until we reach the stratopause, where it starts to fall again through the mesosphere, and once we reach the thermosphere it rises again and keeps on rising, though the density is so low that the actual heat content is minimal. See this: http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cfjps/1400/FIG01_019.JPG In both cases, the correlation is between temperature and altitude, not temperature and pressure. If pressure rises, so does temperature. The air coming down off the Rockies here rises in temperature as its pressure rises in the descent. This is part of the chinook phenomenon's equation. The rest of that equation has to do with condensation of the vapor on the west side of the mountains, which releases the heat of evaporation back to the atmosphere so that the air's temperature fall is minimal as the air is forced upward by the terrain. So when it gets to 3000' on this side, it's MUCH warmer and drier than it was at 3000' on the west side. The snow evaporates (sublimates) in that warm, dry air. It doesn't have a chance to melt. The atmosphere is much more complex than you think. Dan |
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